Irish Neutrality

You’ve proved my point. I said you would run away from what’s charged at you with nonsensical rubbish. Boris Johnson like you is an ardent supporter of Western imperialism and the neo-nazi Ukrainian military. I have no problem in calling out both Russian and Western imperialism, I’m not aligned with either.

Can you address any of the below or will you just resort to the desperate lies you spout.

All you offer is desperate deflection tactics of misrepresenting others when your hypocrisy and insincerity is pointed out to you. You’re not able to explain why you are unwilling to condemn or address the neo-Nazi elements of Ukraine military, the corruption of the Ukrainian govt, the tyrannical regimes, apartheid states and genocidal dictators the West have and continue to back. When these contradictions are called out, you won’t address them - you’ll only sling mud. You’re the perfect example of far right grift, dishonesty and propaganda.

We want to hear why you’ve no issue with Western imperialism, their support for Israel and Saudi Arabia, the countless genocidal fascist dictators they helped to powers and supported in the past, the neo-Nazi regiments of Ukrainian military, Zelensky’s zionism and trail of corruption. You’re a complete and utter hypocrite and we all know you for the nasty little jumped up fascist you are.

The forum offers the chance to discuss all issues including how our policy of neutrality works, something which the majority what to strengthen to continue to allow that. That is something the public wants going by that poll.

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/b4dcb-frequently-raised-topics/

The “no to NATO” brigade set won’t allow any discussion whatsoever. For example, how can you not want any change but be happy for Britain to help police our skies? This is a point I made long ago here when it wasn’t widely known what role the RAF played here.

It appears as though the likes of @Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy would prefer for Britain to oversee our sovereignty.

The forum is rigged with pro-NATO shills and military lunatics.

It’s the govt who won’t allow the other side in on the debate.

Mate

But we’re asking you? Are you above addressing your hypocrisy? I can say that you have pulled those selective quotes out of context as usual to try and shift the focus from yourself.

It’s desperation tactics. You won’t address your lust for imperialism, for how you are happy to support neo-Nazis, how you are happy to support genocidal, apartheid fascist regimes. It shows you up as a vile cyncial, hypocrite. If you are so against fascism and neo-nazism then why can’t you condemn Western support for Israel and Saudi Arabia? If you so for democray in Ukraine then why can’t you address the serious question marks over Zelensky, the Pandora papers and his zionist links?

We all see that you don’t have morals, you just believe in white supermacism and Western ideology should rule the world? You’re a bigot and you’re a coward who is incapable of showing conviction if anything you say as you don’t mean it.

Clare Daly trotted out a lot of glenshane and esteban et Al’s pro Russia talking points just there and was politely but quite comprehensively dismantled by the responses just there, made her look quite foolish I think. Wouldn’t be hard says you.

Daly isn’t pro Russian. That’s what right wing white supermacists like you try to unfairly tarnish here as. She’s a left leaning politician who wants a peaceful resolution in Ukraine and has a severe distaste for all the bloodshed by Western imperialism across the world.

Clare Daly’s “socialism” is of the National variety.

Weren’t you the chap who this week tried to holocaust deny decades of institutional racism in the US?

What odds would you have got on at least one of the protesters being a bearded hipster type with a man bun?

About 1 in 4 of those who voted in favour of repealing the 8th changed their mind after the Citizens Assembly and debate on abortion.

It appears that the protestors fear is that by just debating this that opinions could shift where they don’t want them to go.

The paucity of the quality of debate from the anti-NATO people is most instructive.

All shouting, all dumb soundbytes, personal attacks and non sequiturs.

It’s fucking hilarious that so many of the people who shout “Free Palestine”, which I think anybody with a grain of justice in their heart would agree with, are so anti-Ukraine.

The INTERNET has led so many people into holding totally ludicrous and totally contradictory positions which they cannot defend.

Just shouting shame at him, do they have nothing else?

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1671801737726816256?s=46&t=jcSMeoduIpPkggX6IuDhBQ

Even has a ‘where is John Rogers?’ character on the left.

The whole thing about ditching neutrality is being led by the fart sniffers in iveagh house, the last cunts to pick up a weapon

No one anywhere has mentioned ditching neutrality. It’s only loony oddballs like yourself or Fulvio or Mick Wallace or Clare Daly that have said anything about ditching neutrality.

What an idiotic response. Why bother having the fora if theres no notion of ditching neutrality?

And to quote the minister of fart sniffing and defence

“Ireland’s commitment to a rules-based international order and our traditional policy of military neutrality do not inure us from the need to respond to this new reality.”

The irony.

Who should defend Ireland and its waters in the event of an attack by a hostile country?

You can take “hostile country” as code for Russia in this case.

It seems to me that those most anti-NATO, including Sinn Fein, have one answer to this question which they don’t like to voice: Britain. Britain should defend us. :grin: