Is gender dysphoria treatable by surgery?

[anon61956325]

@HBV

is it simply because he says so?

Oh the ironing…

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

@HBV

if a child is born with a mixture of male and female reproductive organs then obviously there should be a method and a reasoning for settling that one way or the other. similarly if a child is born one kidney or a faulty heart valve or a dodgy lung or a cleft palate then of course that child deserves the opportunity to have it set right.

a grown man with a family (or not) deciding he wants his balls removed and wants pharmaceuticals to grow tits is not the same thing. frankly its appaling that any right minded folk would deem it appropriate to lump both cases together. a child with a mixture of male and female reproductive organs clearly has an issue that deserves to be rectified. same cannot be said of a man with a pair of balls and a stubble.
back to my original question.
what exactly is the criteria used to determine that for example Frank Maloney should have been a woman and that society should be expected to respect that?
is it simply because he says so?

and if they settle it incorrectly by choosing one sex over another and its at odds with how the child feels is gender realignment the right course of action then?

[anon61956325]

[HBV]

is this happening kid?
is this what happened Frank Maloney and yerman the olympian from the US?

you are picking a hypothetical scenario out of the air to justify the right of mentally ill people having their bollox cut off. thats not right.

[anon61956325]

The insecurity you express concerning issues of gender and sexuality is off the charts. You can pass it off as part of your hate filled persona all you like, but it is the one issue you relentlessly pursue on here… During such times I tend to bite at you, but I have never considered how terrible it must be for you to be riddled with such anxiety and insecurity - I highly recommend meditation, pal. Look up Jack Carter and see if he is holding courses near you. If you really want to help these people you will do it through love, your fear and anger will do nothing for anyone who wants to lose/add bits.

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

@HBV

is this happening kid?
is this what happened Frank Maloney and yerman the olympian from the US?

you are picking a hypothetical scenario out of the air to justify the right of mentally ill people having their bollox cut off. thats not right.

yes it does happen*

can you answer the question?

*I have no idea

[HBV]

can you answer the original question before we move topic towards hypothetical situations?

[HBV]

so you cant answer the question either?

[anon61956325]

It’s ok, pal. I love you. Your family loves you. You are LOVED! - Take a minute to let that sink in.

YOU ARE LOVED.

[glasagusban]

I doubt it.

[HBV]

grand, once i know you are out of the discussion and have nothing to add one way or the other i can ignore you.
bugger off for yourself then.

[anon61956325]

We are all loved, pal. Some of us just choose not to, or can’t, let it in.

[anon61956325]

Discussion ?

You are running. Stop running.

YOU ARE LOVED.

[Esso_Oil]

In order to keep TFK’s ranking as the go to reference point on all maters of high brow and where all erudite young people should reference, I wish to point out the following glaring inaccuracy.

@anon7035031

Fine Gael liberal on social issues You mean the Fine Gael of James Reilly who would require a team of 6 consultants before a woman with a life threatening condition would get the required medical care? That poor India woman in Galway would have died many times over while the basketball team were being assembled.Garrett Fitzgerald was the last social liberal in Fine Gael, and he has been gone a while.

Only 5 on a basketball team.

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

what was the question mate?

[anon61956325]

Is it ok to be loved?

[HBV]

what exactly is the criteria used to determine that for example Frank Maloney should have been a woman and that society should be expected to respect that?

[Sidney]

@ChocolateMice

The insecurity you express concerning issues of gender and sexuality is off the charts. You can pass it off as part of your hate filled persona all you like, but it is the one issue you relentlessly pursue on here… During such times I tend to bite at you, but I have never considered how terrible it must be for you to be riddled with such anxiety and insecurity - I highly recommend meditation, pal. Look up Jack Carter and see if he is holding courses near you. If you really want to help these people you will do it through love, your fear and anger will do nothing for anyone who wants to lose/add bits.

In fairness, it’s no wonder @HBV is so full of fear, anxiety, insecurity and hatred - he’s been oppressed by Muslims, Travellers, transgenders, gays, women, the unemployed, the homeless and the “looney left” all his life.

It’s time to show him some love.

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

@HBV

what exactly is the criteria used to determine that for example Frank Maloney should have been a woman and that society should be expected to respect that?

in cases like this I would generally side with people who are at risk from social exclusion. That’s the way to go

can you answer my hypothetical question?

[HBV]

you would cut off their bollox to avoid the risk of social exclusion? utter madness.

anyway that wasnt the question, so ill reword it. what is the criteria used to determine that for example Frank Maloney has anything at all wrong with him that requires medical intervention?