Black Daniel has his knickers in a twist
‘Typical Indian’
‘Accused of Racism’
The last time Taylor called Leo an Indian he was corrected by Sammy Wilson - who said he wasn’t an Indian, he was a cowboy
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Any chance of the 'Ra having another crack at the cunt
The dup are being lined up for a good puncicateing
Here you go @Sidney
“Some 45% of those surveyed said they would vote for Northern Ireland to stay in the UK, whilst 42% supported Northern Ireland leaving the UK and joining a united Ireland.”
“In the Lucid talk survey, support for a united Ireland is stronger amongst younger voters. Amongst those surveyed under the age of 45, 49% backed a united Ireland and 38% preferred staying in the UK. The remaining 13% were undecided.”
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So the majority want to remain British.
BBC really keeps you update on everything.
Did I rattle a bucket?
A poll last month found just 21% in the wee six wished to join a United Ireland as opposed to 50% who wished to remain part of the UK.
A united Ireland will not happen in the natural lifespan of anybody on this forum, and it’s unlikely to happen without war breaking out again. Realistically, you’d need a solid majority of 60% or so in favour of a united Ireland for it to happen - it’s not as simple as getting 50% +1 in any future border poll - if that were to happen, a resumption of violence would be inevitable.
Some form of joint authority, a sort of reverse Anglo-Irish agreement, may happen 40 or 50 years or so down the road.
Ironically abortion and same sex marriage, which the few wee six posters on this forum appear to be against, are issues which threaten to deeply undermine the DUP and traditional hardline unionism - these issues don’t affect the PUL community any less than they do the CNR community and push towards liberalisation would open a possible avenue for a genuine cross-community politics to emerge.
A decline in Roman Catholicism, as well as being a positive thing for society in general, would also help the cause of a united Ireland.
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60% is 10-15 years away. The hardline unionists are holding on to the 21%. They don’t believe it and neither does anyone else who lives here or has any intelligent understanding.
It’s already happening and you’ll find there won’t be any single defining moment to inflame anyone. The loyalist paramilitaries are swamping themselves with drugs and racketeering. They’ve enough to occupy them and no means to do much. The brits have lost interest and the udr, ruc, mi5 support just isn’t there any more.
Trouble is there will be a dog end of dyed in the wool psychopaths on either side who may decide one Wednesday morning in the pub that maiming a few innocents is their patriotic duty, and we go again.
I can’t see a cycle of violence happening again. The protestants owned and controlled almost every aspect of society here; industry, government, policing, health service, transport, agriculture, education etc. They’ve lost their grip on all of it. They don’t have much left to fight for and Leo can walk around like he owns the place. There’s no support in either community, or in the security forces for a return to the bad old days and people in their twenties have no recollection of what it was like.
I see what you mean about the psychopaths but they’ve been given enough rope to ruin themselves with criminality. The dup and the uda have had their noses in the trough for so long that they’ve herded themselves into a cul de sac.
Hope you’re right. There’s a thin enough veneer on some nasty bastards though.
30% tariffs with the South after Brexit. The sudden end of farm subsidies. West Ulster could potentially be completely wiped out. Potential for mass emigration, mass unemployment, equal to or worse than anything in Greece, all done maliciously upon them because the DUP wanted to send a signal to the streets that it doesn’t give a fuck about the link with the South.
If the border is on the Irish Sea then presmably 30% tariffs will apply on cross-sea trade and East of the Bann will be wiped out.
Potential for mass rioting, beyond anything in Greece, mostly directed against Arlene Foster, but lashing out any odd way. There will be opportunists.
Unemployment, mass rioting, lashing out in any old way? Twinbrook and poleglass won’t notice the difference
And there’s the problem. When people don’t know their history, they tend to repeat the same mistakes. At some point, Loyalist youths who have no prospects, feel under siege, and feel they are staring down the barrel of a united Ireland, are not going to stand idly by, as they see it.
If there’s one thing we’ve learned from history in the last 30 years, it’s that the unexpected can happen and when it does, it happens very, very quickly.
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