Jeremy Corbyn he's in the RA


#61

Lovely statements and all, but high on preconceived biases, short on reasoning.

UKIP if they actually win any seats next time will be taking them off the Tories, not Labour.

Many floating centre voters will likely vote Lib Dems’ next time. The Lib Dems natural position is around 40 seats and they should get back to something approaching that next time - the vast majority of those gains will come at the expense of the Tories - because that’s who they lost most of their seats to last time and that’s where they’re most likely to get them back.

The next four years will be as challenging as anything any UK government has ever had to deal with since World War II with the Brexit negotiations likely to go badly and Scotland threatening independence.

If Tory supporters want to assume polls during the silly season when they’ve just appointed a new PM will be the same as the polls during the Brexit negotiations when things start to badly unravel, that’s fine by me.


#62

No , but I have a small financial interest in London and I think Tory policies are best for that. Also I think they generally operate a stronger economy with better spin offs for this country.

My interests are totally selfish but if the Brits vote a Labour govt under Corbyn they that is their business. If I lived in England I think I would vote Tory as things stand. That said I would have voted for Blair and Gordon Brown.


#63

What a pile of fucking shit, and you called me a west Brit last week. You’re a gas man :smile:


#64

Fuck me. The great Gael is actually a wannabe Brit


#65

I am a capitalist . This has nothing to do with the national question or Irish culture.


#66

A great day for these islands :joy:

What a fucking clown.


#67

What a fucking homo


#68

Hizzy

You are a pathetic arselicker with no mind of you own.


#69

UKIP are done. The question is whether the Blairite wing of the Labour party quit and set up a new SDP?

I can’t see Jel uniting Labour nor being interested in doing so.

The Tories have the potential to blow it .

It’s all very fluid IMHO.


#70

Four years is a long time, and in all likelihood it will be four years.

The Tories will be in power for ten years by that time and history shows that when a party has been in power for ten years they tend not to be popular.

There’s a long time for their support to drop to 33-34% or so, which is all it’ll need to get them out.


#71

The boundary revisions will affect Labour however.


#72

Only so much gerrymandering you can do.


#73

Yeah, like I said it’s all very fluid. if Labour want to go left and offer a real socialist alternative rather than Blairism, let them off.


#74

They won’t split, the history of the SDP and the nature of first past the post is enough to stop any thoughts of it. If the Lib Dems show signs of recovery in the polls, there will probably be a low level of defections in Lib/Lab marginals.

The redrawing of the boundaries will hurt Labour and make it easier for the Tories to maintain a majority. Brexit makes any predictions foolhardy. Wouldn’t write UKIP off just yet. They will accuse the Tories of selling out unless it’s the hardest of Brexit. Farage could well return too. One thing that is almost certain is that Labour won’t be able to govern in the next parliament without the consent of the SNP though.


#75

Jeremy Corbyn is really not a particularly nice chap, going by his permitting of the behaviour of his Momentum goons, but Sidney et al love the memes on Twitter which make him out to be a lovable teddy bear.

There is now only one electable party in the UK. Sidney and his friends can be happy that they won’t ever have to actually govern so nothing is their fault.


#76

UKIP are going to be just as big a bugbear for Labour as they will be for the Tories.


#77

One thing is for sure - Blairism is not going to get Labour anywhere. The economic and political climate now is vastly different to 1997.

Ultimately this leadership challenge has been a good thing for Corbyn - he has been strengthened personally, looks more confident in his own leadership abilities, and the New Labour types are now firmly on the backfoot as regards policy.

At the same time, it’s an opportunity for the New Labour types - they have talked constantly about “uniting the party” and wanting to be in power - they now have the chance to walk the talk. They’d be well advised to do so, and to put the childish nonsense of the last few months behind them.

Splitting the party is a road to nowhere for them.


#78

I’m not really a meme person, pal, so you’ve lost me here.


#79

Sorry, Paul Mason’s twitter feed.


#80

Don’t read Paul Mason’s Twitter feed very much either, pal, although I like him as a journalist.

Is his Twitter feed good?