Jeremy Corbyn he's in the SA

One of the arguments against lockdown here has been that the elderly are being “imprisoned” or some such deliberately emotive nonsense.

And yet those who demand an end to lockdown are proposing a far more draconian isolation for the elderly. Well, that’s the only thing that makes sense under this argument - because how else are they supposed to avoid catching the virus in a situation where the virus is allowed to spread?

I have to care for somebody who is in the highest risk category. I have to go out and do the shopping and put myself into areas where I might possibly catch the virus, even in lockdown. If I catch it, it’s basically game over, not for myself, but for the person I have to care for, because I cannot avoid physical contact with that person.

It’s bad enough as it is, but if restrictions are lifted, the elderly are essentially being thrown under the bus. There’s no way around that.

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Which is all the more reason that we have to remain in a restrictive living situation.

Any time I hear an argument for removing restrictions it actually solidifies the reasons for keeping them

If you think you’re the only poster here looking after elderly relatives you’re off your game.

What you’re doing is great, but maybe you should consider Tesco’s shopping delivery service. Seriously, if he/she is high risk, you should completely isolate until there’s a vaccine.

You’ve missed the point. Arguing for removing restrictions because the elderly are imprisoned actually puts the elderly in a smaller prison with a window looking out at the rest of us moving on.

Anybody that has to care for a person who is vulnerable is also imprisoned, with a much higher risk.

The whole of Ireland is trying to order online. We got two online orders delivered there this week which were ordered 10 days before. Online ordering is not so great for bread and milk and other stuff that runs out on a regular basis.

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You need at least two trips a week for perishables

I dont order online myself, but sincerely it’s people who are looking after the at risk category like yourself that should be properly assisted here.

Going to Tesco/Supervalu in your case is an awful risk and one you shouldn’t have to take.

These are exactly the scenarios that should be talked about rather than a blanket lockdown - which isn’t actually a lockdown.

If the restrictions were lifted too early that risk is magnified.

Its horrible but its necessary

I find Dunnes quite good in the measures they’ve taken and they took them promptly too.

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Still though, this virus is unknown and more than likely airborne in a Dunnes stores - certainly is a risk there.

It’s this kind of thing the government should be thinking about for family members going out getting messages etc for their relatives who are in the high risk category.

What does this mean? How can the government do anything about people getting messages?

Drop them to at risk categories doors would be one option mate.

The government should disclose that information to the private sector about who’s at risk? Should there be an at risk survey for priority of delivery?

Well, there’s another person in the house who could go out but point blank refuses to. Same fucker who refused to turn on the Maradona documentary a few weeks back out of spite. Hectoring, threatening and bullying behaviour since the start of all this, and not out of concern for anybody else, but out of pity for himself and nobody else. That’s not a government problem, that’s a deep seated behavioural problem.

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Family is everything mate, fairplay.

Of course you can’t as you can’t think for yourself.

For those ranting about capital and capitalism, have a look at the numbers in California. The most capitalist state in the US and one of the most capitalist regions of the world. Yet we are dealing with this incredibly well in a state that has 40 million people. Why? Because we have massive wealth generated by capitalism and can deploy it when necessary.

Idiots on the left will never understand this basic principle. Wealth is created from great ideas and hard work, not sitting on your hole complaining.

Yup and the likes of @flattythehurdler and @glenshane still can’t rationalise. They have this viewpoint that a fairer society will be worse for them and will take any sort of raving lunatic that will engage in corrupt, backward politics go keep that from happening.

Their views here are aligned with the DUP.

Communism is robust to recession. We are seeing capitalism collapsing and crumbling worldwide at this point. Covid19 has brought it to it’s knees.

Wise up. You can’t even see that Corbyn was a disaster for the uk and the labour party? The conservatives could have ran him out of his own constituency but they realised he was an absolute gift to them.