John Delaney/ tugging off half the forum

Quinn spent the money to get Sunderland to a good position and then found a buyer. Are you suggesting that Quinn misled Ellis Short about the financial state of the club when he was buying it? It isnā€™t Quinnā€™s fault that Ellis Short kept appointing bad managers and signing bad players to turn them into relegation candidates every year. Sunderland never faced a ā€œfinancial ruinā€ as you said earlier. Ellis Short got bored and couldnā€™t be bothered trying to compete anymore

@Cicero_Dandi can we get graphs on how many Premier League clubs could have afforded Ronsldinho 15 years ago? cc @GeoffreyBoycott

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Iā€™m not saying he misled anyone, Iā€™m merely commenting on the financial position of the club when Niall Quinnā€™s consortium took charge of Sunderland and the financial position when they left.

You seem to be attempting to debate something else now because the information and facts at hand show you to be completely incorrect in your assertions.

We all partied lads

The sporting position is that he took them from a poor championship team to a mid table Premier League team. He then sold them on to somebody else who had the money to take them to the next level. You have to spend money to make money and to make inroads in football

Hereā€™s a snippet of Sunderlandā€™s fans thoughts when he was rumoured to be taking them over again last year

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/please-true-sunderland-fans-react-14456756.amp

Iā€™m expecting some piece of work there. Its over three months now that heā€™s been working on that.

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Incorrect. He took Sunderland from a team that played Premier League football the prior season to one that played Premier League football the next season. He left them with a bloated squad with a wage bill more than had doubled, full of journeymen and saddled with debt.

Sunderland didnā€™t make any money, in fact they lost significant amounts in Quinnā€™s tenure.

@Cicero_Dandi?

And the season after that, and the season after that, and the season after that, and the season after that. Sunderland couldnā€™t dream about the that before Niall Quinn

He took them over in the championship and left with them in 9th in the Premier League. Wage bill doubling seems appropriate enough

They improved absolutely loads in a sporting sense which you bizarrely seem to have no interest in. He left them with the potential to grow without significant financial difficulties as you seem to be trying to say

Couldnā€™t dream about that? They had spent 5 of the preceding 7 seasons in the top flight. Thatā€™s an incredibly ridiculous, false and utterly ignorant statement from you.

Incorrect, he took them over in the Championship and they finished the 08/09 season in 16th position with the club now saddled with a Ā£71m debt. Short came in and had to deal with the legacy issues in a season which had seen Keane blow about Ā£40m on journeymen before running for the hills when things started to go pear shaped.

They were saddled by debt you maniac, Ā£31m more than when he took over and a squad filled with journeymen and has beens and a wage bill double what it was when he took over. Stop speaking in vaguaries.

The financial position of the club was in very poor shape, he was fast and loose with money and left Sunderland in a bad situation.

So you are now against clubs spending money and gambling on winning trophies?

Quinn was extremely irresponsible with Sunderland and incurred big debts which was very damaging for the club. They failed to win any top level trophies.

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Was there any clarification from Delaney or any of the FAI representatives at the hearing as to why the FAI finances were such a shambles?

Niall Quinn is a thoroughly decent person. Thereā€™s some fucking oddball losers on here.

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Heā€™s a creep.

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@thedancingbaby has a good story about Quinn

Ewan :joy:

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It was editing error.
Monastervin is the ā€œEnnis of the Midlandsā€

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Does nobody edit the Indo online?

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Itā€™s getting embarrassing on him at this point. Heā€™s going around repeating this as if he knows what he is talking about and nobody has pointed it out to him yet.

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