John Delaney/ tugging off half the forum

It didn’t necessarily have to be there.

But the option to hold it there without the embarrassing anti British rules in place should have been.

There should not have been state money given to that ground without it being opened up.

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FIFA and Uefa big wigs . Corporate movers and shakers . Also PR gurus and lobbyists .

Ok mate
 I’d just leave it go now if I were you.

:+1:

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You really are dim and obtuse where these matters are concerned. Is the Aviva Stadium open for camogie? For ultimate frisbee? Is the RDS open for tug of war?

The only organization meant to allow any sport into its grounds is the GAA. Why? Because of stupidity and wilful ignorance. How many times do people need to be told no taypayer monies went into Croke Park? There was Lotto funding, as per the right to application of all sports organizations.

Resentment is not an argument – let alone a coherent argument. Resentment is a state of mind – and a retardation. “anti British rules”: just another skelf of stupidity and ignorance.

There is a lot of taxpayer-derived funding in the Aviva Stadium. Check it out. Equally, the GAA offered to build a national stadium with the FAI and the IRFU in the late 1980s. Check it out. Both organizations refused, at that juncture, to work with the GAA. Why?

These coordinates are a matter of public record. Anyone unaware of them has as much credibility in this area as Michael Healy Rae would have talking about Brylcreem

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John Delaney will go down as the best executive Vice President the FAI ever had.

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Dim and obtuse? You aren’t making any sense here.

The RDS is open to whatever it’s members like. They are mature adults.

The Aviva Stadium was built in the context of Irish Rugby needing a new stadium, after trying a new one themselves and then being messed around by the Irish Government. Similarly the FAI required one. At the time and right up to the completion of the Aviva Stadium, the GGA’s bigoted laws were in place.

The Aviva Stadium, like the RDS, is also open to whatever event can pay a rental fee and be facilitated there.

There is no “stupidity and ignorance” to calling out what the rules were. American Football could be played in GGA grounds - Rule 42 explicitly stated that “Garrison Games” were banned. It was a straightforward anti British rule. Whatever you want to talk about the 1980s - right up to the Liam Miller game a form of this bigoted rule was still on the books.

The GGA should have had all grant money pulled with such a rule in place, but the GGA enjoyed favourable treatment from the Irish State since it’s inception.

Your post is pretty embarrassing conflating totally disconnected issues. It shows how much the Liam Miller situation upset your sense of self. Why should Damien Duff or whatever comment on John Delaney’s expenses or giving a €100k loan? The GGA is an organisation, a democratic one, and it was the GGA as a whole which had that bigoted rule.

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Calling the GAA the GGA

Sigh

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Fairly deplorable using a charity match for a young man that died of cancer to try and score points.

Shame on you, you whiskey-soaked scumbag.

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Look, your ignorance is not my problem. I am not here to cure it. You are about the least interesting individual on this forum, which is going some. Besides, your type of ignorance, being a personality defect, is not treatable by the ministrations of knowledge.

You must be some salesman, given the impregnability of your self regard and the imperviousness of your ignorance.

And you’re doing the exact same thing right there you low life.

OlĂȘ.

So to speak.

Do not spend all your brain cells in the one post. As recent events evince, the cost is only precariously charged to expenses.

No I’m not, I’m calling him out over his disgusting behaviour.

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Sober up you gobshite.

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It’s no surprise really.

Some of them really bristled at the criticism received over that event.

That was criticism which was a long time coming. The fawning by the IRFU and FAI over being able to pay rent for the use of Croke Park back in 2008 was pathetic. One of my primary crticisims of Delaney (as well as Browne) was this sort of thing.

PuC was planned by the Cork County Board and fair enough to them for that. But when they went out with the hand out for State money somebody should have said stop. This is the third largest city in Ireland (which is sports mad) that didn’t have a semi decent stadium for any sport. Zero state money should have gone into a facility where the rules explicitly forbid other sports from playing there. This wasn’t a grant of a couple of million. This was 10s of millions of State money.

This comes back to the childish attitude to stadiums in Ireland. The media would never call the GGA out. Nor would the IRFU or FAI, and you can see why with the attitudes of certain lads on here. The GGA can do no wrong apparently.

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Sober up
 It is not yet half four and I am contemplating nothing stronger than Lapsang Souchong for the dreary day that is in it.

Even so, I am reminded of what Winston Churchill said to Bessie Braddock.

‘No, you sober up, y’ould bitch’

There is no ignorance here.

Rule 42 was a fact in Ireland.

I am sure there were bright sparks in the GGA who saw the opportunity for a national stadium. They were there in the early 2000s trying to get the ground opened up again. They could see the potential €€€.

The issue was the continued bigotry amongst the membership of the organisation.

The denial of this is hilarious to see.

Not quite


The sanctity of ignorance:

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