Jordan Peterson šŸ vs CH4

**[quote=ā€œalf_stewart, post:1343, topic:25510, full:trueā€]
You believe people can by some quirk of biology be born as the wrong sex. I donā€™t. Stop getting your knickers in a twist over it.
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Iā€™m enjoying the exchanges Iā€™ve read. But do you not think with the above post, youā€™re kind of contradicting your own argument

One more time. Some people believe they have been born in the wrong body as the wrong sex. It doesnt mean its true but it is a recognised psychological condition.

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One more time, Iā€™ll ask you the question you avoided three times, do you see that your statement that there is ā€œzero evidenceā€ for transsexualism is patently untrue?

Probably.

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Throw up where i said that and iā€™ll answer you.

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thatā€™s the difference right there, beliefs and opinions.

Opinions can be changed, beliefs canā€™t

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ok youā€™re still going to lie about this? the disorder isnā€™t to do with believing you are born in the wrong body.

Great question bro.

A person doesnā€™t exist. All that exists is consciousness. And a lump of mass in a body.

Sometimes there is consistency in terms of what bodies do in sexes, sometimes there is clearly not and sometimes itā€™s in between.

Either way, we canā€™t we all get along?

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OK so that is absolute shit.

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This is a getting bit silly.

Beliefs most certainly can be changed. How do you explain a person who was religious becoming an atheist or visa versa? Itā€™s correct to say itā€™s more difficult to change beliefs than opinions.

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I was following the back and forth happy to remain silent until that was rolled out.

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religion isnā€™t the kind of belief Iā€™m talking about -

here ye go

religion is an external thing - it might frame your beliefs or it might not - but no matter the religion a persons beliefs very rarely change

Another important factor accounting for resistance to changing our beliefs is the way our beliefs are so often intertwined with how we define ourselves as peopleā€”our self-concept. Indeed, beliefs are associated with a part of the brain integrally involved in self-representationā€”the ventromedial prefrontal cortex.4 We want to feel that we are consistent, with our behavior aligning with our beliefs. We constantly try to rationalize our own actions and beliefs, and try to preserve a consistent self-image. Itā€™s embarrassing and quite often costly in a variety of ways to admit that we are fundamentally wrong.

Thereā€™s even a connection to the topic at hand. The majority of children who are diagnosed with gender dysphoria cease to desire to be the opposite sex by puberty. Most of them grow up to identify as gay, lesbian or bisexual. So their beliefs about themselves clearly change.

Good to see youā€™ve abandoned the nonsense of beliefs cannot change. They are hard to change.

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Thanks for that. Youā€™ve just ruined the whole Santy thing for me

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When you were a child @EstebanSexface I presume you like most of us believed in Santa, when asked your opinion of whether he was real or not by saying yes in your opinion he was real and you believed in his existence. Roll on a few years and once a parent informed you that Santa was not real both your belief in him and your opinion of his existence changed in unison in the snap of a finger. Very basic example but the point stands.

Itā€™s a saying bro. Itā€™s noticeable how you focus on that and not @alf_stewart blatant lies and misinformation

Very informative

for fuck sake

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Am I wrong??