Lance Armstrong

The whole things looks as though it is a set up by the pinko liberal media.

Yeah David Walsh is the Sports Editor for The Sunday Time, a complete pinko liberal agenda driven title.

Agreed. I firmly believe that Ullrich was a better cyclist than Armstrong and there are strong indications that he wasn’t at it to same level as Armstrong (hematocrit levels much lower etc)but he wasn’t clean either so you can’t award them to him.

A few other personal thoughts that bug me…

  • He came back in 09 and was juiced up. He was coming back to a much cleaner peloton and the justification for doping that he had earlier in his career (they are all at it) was no longer there yet he chose to dope anyway and gain an enough advantage over clean GC guys like Evans, Wiggins
  • The bullying and intimidation of those that fought for a clean tour during 99-05. His treatment of Bassons was cowardly.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q8Y0uL-4oA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIl5RxhLZ5U
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  • His questionable use of charity for financial gain. Livestrong.org does some great work and is non for profit. Livestrong.com though is giving Lance a big earner

Anyway this is a good day for the sport. Again it will be argued that it is terrible news but cycling now is incomparable to how it was back even four years ago. There are for sure some dopers left in cycling but they are easier to pinpoint and are the exception not the norm. There are some massive elephants in other sports imo.

They should just legalise some drug that everyone can take and let them at it.

This should be in the things that are right. I noticed that armstrong totally misrepresented the judges comments in his statement

I’d bet my house winners of two grand tours this year are clean Julio. Cycling is different sport now. “All at it” argument simply isn’t true anymore.

[quote=“larryduff, post: 151729”]
I’d bet my house winners of two grand tours this year are clean Julio. Cycling is different sport now. “All at it” argument simply isn’t true anymore.[/quote]
We might hang onto this post, for posterity ‘n’ shit.

Armstrong will likely be sued by SCA insurance company now. They lost a case against him in 06 when they refused to pay out bonus on his 7 tour wins claiming he had doped. Incidentally Armstrong lied under oath then.
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/12122/SCA-Promotions-will-monitor-USADA-case-against-ArmstrongUS-Postal-Service.aspx

have to go as far as 8th place in some tours to find a ‘clean’ rider

Christ, some of the replies on here would make you cry:

http://www.anfearrua.ie/topic.aspx?id=1250983

Deary me. Armstrong sure knows how to spin a story. Fact that people are still questioning whether or not he cheated is some achievement from his team.

Larrybluff is trying to spin what is a very bad day for cyclying into some kind of victory - you couldn’t make it up :lol:

[quote=“Thrawneen, post: 151733”]Christ, some of the replies on here would make you cry:

http://www.anfearrua.ie/topic.aspx?id=1250983[/quote]
"he was never found to have taken drugs but he admitted to pedalling "

:lol:

Paul Kimmage on RTE Radio 1 now.

In fairness Dunph, any sport that allows grown men to prance around in multi coloured lycra can’t be all bad.

I’ll take that bet

Is it a case of the testing catching up with him?

What about indurain? He had a resting pulse of 28 or something crazy…

Whats kimmage saying?

Indurain was juiced up.
BUT…
Hesjedal who won Giro this year is clean for sure.
Wiggins who has won tour and loads else this year is clean.
Larryduff the winner of Fingal Challenge and who performed heroics in two Ulster marathons this year is clean.
Locke who did great job in tour de munster is clean
Balbec is clean I’m sure

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Whats kimmage saying?[/quote]
In one word? Vindication.