Lance Armstrong

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Kimmage must be in his element with all this.[/quote]
Kimmage posted a tweet recently along the lines of the whole situation being very difficult for those close to him. Said he was relishing the fight but that it was putting a lot of pressure on him. Seemed quite stressed the poor fucker. Hope he comes out the other side of this ok. To think lads still stand up for Armstrong over someone like Kimmage would turn your stomach.

The twitterati have turned on Lance in a big way. Huge difference from the reaction to his decision not to contest the charges.

Please never use this word again.

It’s trending

Has Jimmy Magee made a statement yet?

That’s not the point Chewy. The point is the charity work is irrelevant to whether he did wrong or not.

Couple of other thoughts on this story.

  1. It’s a little disconcerting reading the articles in the media today from people who supported Armstrong unequivocally over the years. I have no issue with journalists simply making the wrong call on the evidence, but there were plenty who chose not to write about doping and who ignored all the allegations when writing about cycling.

The Guardian is my favourite newspaper but their cycling coverage (which is ok on the sporting side of cycling) always avoided the entire Armstrong issue and were almost as complicit in the cover-up that surrounded the sport as UCI were. Their main article today was written by Matt Seaton and it’s a factual piece but fairly hard-hitting all the same:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2012/oct/11/lance-armstrong-denials-usada-detail?intcmp=122

This same journalist wrote, only 4 months ago:

“Like many others I felt I knew all I needed to know about Lance Armstrong long ago. Perhaps it’s time to let him keep his Tour titles, and move along. I want clean, dope-free cycle sport now. Scrubbing obsessively at supposed stains of the past is doing nothing for that.”

He’s far from alone of course but it was a little strange hearing RTÉ and Today FM sports journalists telling us this news this morning when they didn’t bother covering the story when it was more relevant. They didn’t even need to judge, just to make it clear that there were serious allegations and an awful lot of evidence. Something that was apparent from Off The Ball or the Sunday Times for example.

  1. From reading the Tyler Hamilton book it’s fairly clear that Spain has had an unacceptable tolerance for doping. And given the statements previously from Fuentes about the Spanish soccer team there are serious issues for football to address that they have completely ignored and the media have played their part in letting the story disappear.

Spot on with those last two posts Rocko.

An awful lot of reporters are facing a pretty awkward climbdown, and if not that I wonder will they address the fact that they put their heads in the sand despite the fairly overwhelming evidence against him up til now.

he is a cheat and a fraud and should now be shunned by everyone.

My thoughts are with Phil Liggett at this awful time. He’s been LA’s biggest cheerleader.

I think doping is rife in Spanish football.

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I think doping is rife in Spanish football.[/quote]

Is Fuentes the doctor who has links to Barca?

Anyone read the full judgement yet? I read the executive summary but then got very tired. Hard hitting stuff indeed.

What about Spanish tennis?

Barca aren’t a Spanish team, mate. He does have links to the Royalists.

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Is Fuentes the doctor who has links to Barca?

Anyone read the full judgement yet? I read the executive summary but then got very tired. Hard hitting stuff indeed.[/quote]

He has been linked to Barca and Real and a load of other clubs. He has said that if he ever gave details about who he worked with then Spain would be stripped of their World Cup.

Sky News bizarrely interviewing Jenson Button about this looking for his opinion :strokechin:

I think Team Sky are this decade’s US Postal.

I also think Usain Bolt and the rest of the Jamaican sprinters are right up there with Armstrong in terms of fraud.

Cat got your tongue, Anto?

the danciingbaby was right all along

In fairness to Griffin, he’s an alright sort. His book was/is inspirational