will I ask him for a retweet for the Clarehurlers forum?
What did the kids do to be downgraded? :strokechin:
I have query in relation to the Paul Kimmage UCI law suit?
Kimmage accused the UCI of covering up a drug test by Lance Armstrong.
UCI have denied this and are suing Kimmage.
In the USADA Report is there any mention of this? I.e. that there was or was not a cover up?
Who was it saying Indurain has come out of this smelling of roses?
Fuck me, I can hardly believe the shit he’s come out with.
[quote=“Thrawneen, post: 152059”]http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/oct/23/lance-armstrong-miguel-indurain-uci-evidence?newsfeed=true
Who was it saying Indurain has come out of this smelling of roses?
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Sammy Sanchez came out with some similar guff today. And Rubiera the other day. The Spanish are pretty ok about doping.
Indeed they are.
I wish Spanish competitors in other sports could be investigated with the same rigour and professionalism that USADA displayed when examing Armstrong’s case.
[quote=“Bandage, post: 152061”]Indeed they are.
I wish Spanish competitors in other sports could be investigated with the same rigour and professionalism that USADA displayed when examing Armstrong’s case.[/quote]
Absolutely mate.
I’ve got through about half of this so far and it’s superb stuff.
Victor Conte believes Bolt is “probably on a cocktail of 7 or 8 drugs”.
Mo Farah’s coach Antonio Salazar mentioned too as well as the Williams sisters.
Has Larryduff made any comments re lance?
Despite everything that has emerged in recent days I stand by what I said in the first thread I ever posted in(TDF 2006). Lance was a cheat, McQuaid can get stuffed.
Fascinating interview. Some of the stuff he says deserves to be reported world-wide.
I’m about 1/3 through The Secret Race so far. First thing I didn’t know that I’ve come across is that Bassons had a huge VO2 max, better than Armstrong’s. Makes his decision not to dope even more impressive.
Bassons was suspended couple of days back for missing a test. He abandoned a mountain back race 20km from finish. He was meant to be tested at finish but because he didn’t show for test he got suspended for a year. Odd that he of all people should get suspended. Admirable guy.
It’s crazy, there’s so much explosive stuff in it. There’s a bit in the third hour about the US Olympic team for Seoul '88, and the fact that had 100 positive tests from the Olympic trials. 50 of them were covered up, and of those 50 athletes, the US won 19 medals.
When they had all the positive tests they realised that if they actually reported the results, most of the US team would be banned. So they just decided to say that test was experimental and they poured the B-samples down the drain.
The stuff about Carl Lewis is nuts as well. I hadn’t seen that documentary on the Seoul 100m, but apparently one of Lewis’ friends was given access to a restricted area by officials. and he spiked Ben Johnson’s drink so he’d fail his test. Unbelievable stuff.
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It’s crazy, there’s so much explosive stuff in it. There’s a bit in the third hour about the US Olympic team for Seoul '88, and the fact that had 100 positive tests from the Olympic trials. 50 of them were covered up, and of those 50 athletes, the US won 19 medals.
When they had all the positive tests they realised that if they actually reported the results, most of the US team would be banned. So they just decided to say that test was experimental and they poured the B-samples down the drain.
The stuff about Carl Lewis is nuts as well. I hadn’t seen that documentary on the Seoul 100m, but apparently one of Lewis’ friends was given access to a restricted area by officials. and he spiked Ben Johnson’s drink so he’d fail his test. Unbelievable stuff.[/quote]
Would there not be a fair chance a lot of it is literally ‘unbelievable’ stuff? How reliable is yer man?
Suppose if bolt is as bad as he makes out it will all come out eventually though.
Looks like GAA is the only thing we can believe in any more. With the obvious exception of Clare in the 90s, Armagh in the 00s and Donegal.
He’s a bass player. Not too far a level up from drummers in the insanity stakes.
I don’t see why he’d have any reason to lie though. Is he not basically a Dr. Ferarri that’s just spilling the beans on everything?
Greg LeMond issued a scathing attack on Pat McQuaid last night.
LeMond’s open letter is as follows:
[i] Can anyone help me out? I know this sounds kind of lame but I am not well versed in social marketing. I would like to send a message to everyone that really loves cycling. I do not use twitter and do not have an organized way of getting some of my own “rage” out. I want to tell the world of cycling to please join me in telling Pat McQuaid to resign. I have never seen such an abuse of power in cycling’s history- resign Pat if you love cycling. Resign even if you hate the sport.
Pat McQuaid, you know dam well what has been going on in cycling, and if you want to deny it, then even more reasons why those who love cycling need to demand that you resign. I have a file with what I believe is well documented proof that will exonerate Paul.
Pat, in my opinion you and Hein are the corrupt part of the sport. I do not want to include everyone at the UCI because I believe that there are many, maybe most that work at the UCI that are dedicated to cycling, they do it out of the love of the sport, but you and your buddy Hein have destroyed the sport.
Pat, I thought you loved cycling? At one time you did and if you did love cycling please dig deep inside and remember that part of your life- allow cycling to grow and flourish- please! It is time to walk away. Walk away if you love cycling.
As a reminder I just want to point out that you recently you accused me of being the cause of USADA’s investigation against Lance Armstrong. Why would you be inclined to go straight to me as the “cause”? Why shoot the messenger every time?
Every time you do this I get more and more entrenched. I was in your country over the last two weeks and I asked someone that knows you if you were someone that could be rehabilitated. His answer was very quick and it was not good for you. No was the answer, no, no, no!
The problem for sport is not drugs but corruption. You are the epitome of the word corruption. You can read all about Webster’s definition of corruption. If you want I can re-post my attorney’s response to your letter where you threaten to sue me for calling the UCI corrupt. FYI I want to officially reiterate to you and Hein that in my opinion the two of your represent the essence of corruption.
I would encourage anyone that loves cycling to donate and support Paul in his fight against the Pat and Hein and the UCI. Skip lunch and donate the amount that you would have spent towards that Sunday buffet towards changing the sport of cycling.
I donated money for Paul’s defense, and I am willing to donate a lot more, but I would like to use it to lobby for dramatic change in cycling. The sport does not need Pat McQuaid or Hein Verbruggen- if this sport is going to change it is now. Not next year, not down the road, now! Now or never!
People that really care about cycling have the power to change cycling- change it now by voicing your thought and donating money towards Paul Kimmage’s defense, (Paul, I want to encourage you to not spend the money that has been donated to your defense fund on defending yourself in Switzerland. In my case, a USA citizen, I could care less if I lost the UCI’s bogus lawsuit. Use the money to lobby for real change).
If people really want to clean the sport of cycling up all you have to do is put your money where your mouth is.
Don’t buy a USA Cycling license. Give up racing for a year, just long enough to put the UCI and USA cycling out of business. We can then start from scratch and let the real lovers in cycling direct where and how the sport of cycling will go.
Please make a difference.
Greg[/i]
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Read more: http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/13145/LeMond-issues-open-letter-calling-on-McQuaid-and-Verbruggen-to-resign-for-the-sake-of-cycling.aspx#ixzz2AJAIzVAS[/left][/left]
After seeing the above, Pat McQuaid’s son accused LeMond of doping via twitter today:
Fair play to LeMond. Bobby Jullich is gone from Sky now after admitting to doping in late nineties. Sky’s policy of getting rid of anyone with a history of doping isn’t helping matters imo. Encouraging people to lie imo.
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I would like to preface this statement, by saying that while I don’t expect all of you to believe some of the things that I am about to say, I don’t want to insult anyone’s intelligence any longer and deny that I have never had anything to do with the shady past of professional cycling. This statement is about me and the decisions that I have made in the past.[/size][/font]
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I have recently made a full confession to Team Sky senior management about my doping history and understand that by doing so I will no longer be able to work for a dream team performing my dream job. I also understand that by doing this, I will have to face some more important consequences in the real world and with the people that matter the most to me.[/size][/font]
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I knew before I headed to our team meeting in London last week that we would all be asked about our past. I knew that this was going to be a pivotal point in my life and I decided to come clean not only to Team Sky but also to the sport and people that I love.[/size][/font]
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Lately, much has been said about purging the past before being able to rebuild and finally putting these dark days behind us. If we are going to purge, then we should do it for the right reasons. I hope we can learn from the past and look toward the present and future generations so that they will not have to confront the same issues.[/size][/font]
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I made the decision to use EPO several times from August 1996 until July of 1998. Those days were very different from today, but it was not a decision that I reached easily. I knew that it was wrong, but over those two years, the attitude surrounding the use of EPO in the peloton was so casual and accepted that I personally lost perspective of the gravity of the situation.[/size][/font]
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During the 1998 Tour, my fiancé (now wife) found out what was going on from another rider’s wife. She confronted me on it and it was one of the most dreadful experiences of my life. She was never a part of this and I put her in a very difficult situation. She told me right then and there that if it ever happened again, our relationship would be over. That was motivation enough and I knew I had to stop.[/size][/font]
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The Festina Affair changed everything for me. It reaffirmed for me that this was not only wrong and bad for my health, but also illegal with heavy consequences. In a strange way, I was relieved that the Festina Affair happened and was personally convinced doping would stop and that this problem would be over. I quickly realised how wrong I was.[/size][/font]
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From that moment on, I tried to shield young riders from the temptations that were out there. The following years my own resolve with doping may have wavered but it did not break. There were times that I was tempted to return to the dark side, but after some difficult years, I stopped thinking about what others were doing and focused on my own performance and enjoyment in the sport. Most importantly, I proved to myself that it is possible to compete clean and I came back with solid, clean results that I am extremely proud of.[/size][/font]
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My return to the top level of the sport coincided with signing at Team CSC in 2004 and I want to briefly explain my side of the story. I know that much has been said about what allegedly happened there and about the man that is the figure head of that team. I am not going to defend him as a person but rather as an organisation and what it did for me personally.
This organisation gave me two things that no illegal substance could ever truly provide. It gave me back my self-respect and my self-confidence. That was all that I needed to perform at the highest level. This was my personal experience. At no time was I offered or did I receive any sort of blood manipulation nor did I witness any systematic doping within the team. I found that I could compete without it and my results during that period were achieved clean. That being said, what happened before the 2006 Tour de France changed my outlook into what we all thought we were buying into when we joined that team.[/size][/font]
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When I began working for Team Sky in 2011, the real selling point for me was their clear commitment to running a clean team and I wanted to be a part of it. I hope that everyone understands that this team is special. Dave Brailsford had never competed in the sport at the highest level, and he set out to do things differently. I am extremely honored to have been a member of this team and a small part of the success that they achieved during this period.[/size][/font]
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I apologise to everyone, especially those associated with Team Sky for my past indiscretions. I made some poor decisions and have paid and will pay a huge price. I am taking responsibility, at the expense of not being able to finish what I started, with some of the best people that I have ever been associated with.[/size][/font]
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To this new generation of young riders; I hope that you will learn from the past and avoid the mistakes many of us have made. It is up to your generation to insure that the issues of the past do not affect your future. I am truly sorry that you all are dealing with something that you had no part in creating.[/size][/font]
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I know I cannot change my past, however, I do wish to remain in the sport of cycling in some capacity. I love it with all my heart and I hope that even though I made some poor decisions a long time ago, that I can continue to help contribute to the positive changes in this sport. I believe that it is a sport worth saving.[/size][/font]
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Stupid that they’re sacking him.
In Tyler’s book he mentions that Armstrong didn’t like Julich and that Julich didn’t give a flying fuck what Armstrong thought about him.
Which makes him, quite probably, very much an alright sort.