Lance Armstrong

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Looks like itā€™s just TASE and Jimmy Magee left supporting Lance. :lol: :rolleyes:

He really does come across as a right cunt of a man in the Oprah interview. I know itā€™s been said a lot but he seems to be a sociopath of sorts. David Walsh was interviewed on BBC today and brought up the story what Armstrong said about his late 12 year old son again. That definitely looks like it made it personal for him.

Fucks sake WTB theyre still goin on about natlie holloway over there,if lance was european and made betsy cry fox and everyone else would be all over it like flies on shite,theyd be callin for drone strikes

Tyler Hamiltonā€™s reaction was pretty interesting.

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ā€œI think itā€™s a huge, huge first step for Lance Armstrong,ā€ Hamilton, one of 11 former teammates to testify against the U.S. cycling star, told NBC televisionā€™s Today Show.[/font]
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ā€œFor a lot of people, itā€™s raw. Iā€™ve known about it for a long time, since 1998. Big first step,ā€ said Hamilton, whose 2012 book, The Secret Race, described doping by Armstrong.[/font]
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[size=4]ā€œYou can tell, itā€™s real. Heā€™s very emotional and heā€™s definitely sorry. [/size]I donā€™t know. I think itā€™s going to be a hard next few weeks for him, next few months, years,ā€ he said. ā€œHe did the right thing, finally. And itā€™s never too late to tell the truth.ā€

His attitude toward Armstrong is very strange. ā€œVery emotionalā€? Where is he getting that from? Even though Armstrong treats him and treated him like a dog, he still seems very loyal to him in certain ways.[/font]

The bit where the weird cunt says he called Betsy Andreu a ā€˜crazy bitch but not a fat, crazy bitchā€™ is comedy gold. :lol:

He though he was being funny till he looked at oprah and remembered that shes a fat pig

Itā€™s unreal. A revelatory moment. Ken referred to it on OTB earlier as well, this was Armstrongā€™s idea of levity :smiley:

:lol:

I donā€™t agree with him but in some ways itā€™s quite an admirable reaction. Hamilton by all accounts has a very pleasant and personable manner. Perhaps itā€™s just his nature that he prefers to see the good in people? :slight_smile: Perhaps he has, in his thoughts, put himself in Armstrongā€™s shoes and wondered how he would have behaved.

People who have had family members murdered can sometimes find it in themselves to forgive the murderer. Armstrong to the best of my knowledge hasnā€™t murdered anybody.

David Walsh and Paul Kimmage were rightly bitter over the way Armstrong treated them. Theyā€™ve now been 100% vindicated and he has been disgraced. Sometimes, for a personā€™s sanity, there comes a time to put that bitterness aside. That time is probably now, or at least after tonight. Thatā€™s not to say they shouldnā€™t continue their magnificent journalistic work. The opposite in fact.

Thatā€™s a pretty good article.

might watch the second part tonight. might as well drink away now for a couple of hours.

Tyler needs to believe that an apology and a confession represents full redemption. Iā€™ve been uneasy at how quickly he became the hero of the story given his constant lying and how he wrecked the sport not only by participating in doping but by joining Armstrong in pushing doping to a new level.

Do you not think the author is just a self-pitying, sycophant, who simply ignored the mountain of evidence about Armstrong because he ā€œadmired him.ā€?

Thatā€™s the impression I got from it. An incompetent, arse licker of a ā€˜journalistā€™, whoā€™s feeling sorry for himself because Lance exploited his incompetence.

+1. These cunts would sicken your hole. It was very good for their careers to be on Lances side.

Tyler is a fucking gimp. He was so ā€œsincereā€ in the old days he would make you want to puke. I stopped buying cyclesport because of all the Lance, Tyler, Postal love ins they used to publish.

+2

Exactly. fans with typewriters.

If Lance was taking EPO and growth hormone etc before he got cancer, it would make you wonder why his performances in the Tour were so poor up to that.

Yeah in a way. Not commenting on anything else he wrote but I can imagine how heā€™s feeling now and though he was an idiot he clearly feels let down and thought he captured that fairly well.

Because he wasnā€™t related to a Tour rider. Iā€™d say he industrialised his doping after the big C. He lost a lot of weight as well of course. Plus it is quite possible that the rest of them were doping less in 99 after Festina. but he brazened it out and and when he failed the test the UCI were afraid of their shit about another scandal. Whereas the Cancer Jesus story was uplifting.

The first time I saw Lance racing was the Olympic road race in 92. He was in the break and behaving like a cunt, all hand gestures and posturing . He never changed.

Iā€™d say they were doping the same but from all accounts Armstrong seems to have gotten the bull by the horns and said lets do the best fucking doping possible and be better than everyone else. Getting Ferrari in is part of that. He does seem to be a genius of doping. Festina et al were amateurish in comparison, Willy Voet, an 80s relic transporting stuff, riders throwing money into a pot to buy the shit, not much organisationā€¦Bernard Sainz, (not sure which team he was working with) a lad whoā€™d been round since the 70s, probably not giving too much of a shit. God knows who other teams had. Sainz at ONCE always seemed like a headcase, I doubt heā€™d have organised something too complex. Armstrong met his perfect match in Ferrari. They got it down to a fine art. The Motoman thing was genius. And theyā€™d have gotten away with it, if it wasnā€™t for those pesky journalists/USADAā€™s/witnesses.

Seems to be the pesky comeback really fucked him up