It was perfectly delivered, I suspect even @Breaking_my_balls chucked at that
It was superb in fairness, a great quip
It always gives me a little boost getting a like from a jaded oul internet warhorse such as yourself.
In fairness itās not really un-common going against your own club, just off the top of my head.
Sean Stack: Toomevara & Na Piarsaigh vs Sixmilebridge
Mark Foley coaching the well against Adare.
Cregan against Limerick in the biggest possible match you could ask.(county I know)
Sitting at home Iām thinking no I couldnāt possibly go against my own club but Iād say if you were on the sideline that could quickly change & you might want to beat your own club more than any other match youāve been involved in. Your ego might get the better of you & show them what theyāre missing!
1994 affected Eamon Cregan a lot. He could never reconcile it and to this day dislikes speaking about it.
Being directly involved with another club through coaching etc against your own club is slightly different in that youāve given the commitment to the other club and are almost duty bound to do your best, and Iām sure I absolutely would if ever found in that position. Again though, thereās a way to do it, dignified and respectful etc
Like, I never said Iād be above in the stand roaring and bawling against my sonās team either if they were playing against my own club, I just couldnāt actively shout for them. That reasoned and measured and dignified approach seems to have sent a few lads over the edge as I wouldnāt call my own crowd a shower of cunts with froth at the mouth etc
I donāt see anything writing with that bit. Itās the choosing your club over your kid when it comes to result is the weird bit even sat watching it in silence
Lads advocating supporting a different club against their own club just because their son is playing. Wtf?
I donāt see why itād be so wrong. Again, once you wouldnāt be loud about it.
Seeing as you presented a few scenarios of your own. Say you played, coached and were administratively involved etc, actively involved in your club since a child, later you fundraised, development of facilities etc. You move to the nearby town and have sons and do the right thing and get involved in coaching and running of the new club, their club. Yes, it becomes your new club or a kind of second club now through your kids, Iāll accept that.
Fast forward 20 years and a Senior Final between the 2 clubs. Surely the approach Iāve suggested above is acceptable, to respectfully not openly take sides and to privately wish your home club would finally gent over the line.
Canāt see the problem to be honest.
Young lads traveling 30 minutes up the road to play for a club way outside of their own parish boundaries would seem absurd.
I think the father should sit on the fence here if he still plays for the former club but heās unlikely to have any emotional attachment to the sporting fortunes of a group of U12ās he doesnāt know.
I think thatās worse than the scenario Iāve outlined but hey Every situation is very different though, Iād be slow to judge without knowing the facts etc
Thereās a lot of borders where you could have a host of clubs alright. It would be difficult to go against your own though. The respectful, dignified approach is best as you outlined above. Quietly hope for your son to win because by the time heās senior very few of your former teammates will still be playing.
Cc: Damien Cahalane
Ordinarily Iād agree, but Castlehaven couldnāt survive without the ex pats, tiny remote clubs get a pass, an Gaeltacht as well
Look, maybe if it ever came to it Iād feel differently, as I said above itās a hypothetical scenario, maybe when it really boiled down to it Iād privately want the new crowd to win. Iād currently find that hard to fathom though.
Easiest solution is for the 6 brothers to build on sites in their home farm or within the parish. Build a serious legacy within the club!
Doesnāt matter if loud or quiet about it. Only person that matters in it all is your kid/s and youāre telling them some things are more important than family.
Different approach but each to his own.
Club hurling is very different now. Many kids are playing for clubs their parents didnāt play for and their kids will play for different clubs as well.
It takes the sting out of it.
Sorry, didnāt respond to your scenario.
I genuinely find it difficult to think Iād take the happiness of my club at the expense of my kidās defeat. I donāt care if Iām 3rd generation club captain. It gets parked when your own are there to be supported. Family first and always.
Iād support my old club at each and every other level mind you. I might even be slagging him in the build up saying Iām backing my one true club. But if I have one of my own take the pitch, I am all in on him with not an ounce of equivocation or minuteās consideration.
I honestly canāt see how it could be considered your way. Nothing trumps family, as simple as that for me. Heās mine and Iāll back him to the hilt
I suppose Iām thinking Iād be able to separate the sport from the āfamily trumps allā aspect as I wouldnāt view not roaring for him from the stand for one game as a betrayal, and Iād be disappointed if he saw it that way. Perhaps your right, if it came to it that family instinct would maybe take overā¦ maybeā¦
Theyāre in different divisions but would meet a good bit at underage in both codes. Little enough between them really.