Liverpool Football Club 2013/14

[QUOTE=“Sidney, post: 924490, member: 183”]It means nothing if you have no soul. City used to be a club with a soul. They had a soul when they were smashing United 5-1 in 1989 and when Alan Ball was screeching not to attack on the line and when they got over 30,000 into Maine Road for Division 2 matches.

Now they’re just a blancmange of blandness playing in a soulless flat-pack stadium with no atmosphere with players that have no connection to their supporters. City are now merely a less hateful version of Chelsea. Liverpool Football Club will always keep its soul, regardless of who owns it.[/QUOTE]
Eastlands has the worst atmosphere I’ve ever experienced. And it was full and Citeh were winning. Flat pack stadium was an apt description.

@farmerinthecity claiming it wasn’t common for Liverpool to have world class strikers. :smiley:

Why is there not more made of Rodgers being irish? Would he win rte sports personality of the year or Philips manager of the year if they win the league for instance?

Very pertinent point.

Ye can point to all the people who lived in Birmingham all ye want, there is good reason for that type of following, but the majority of “fans” have never been to more than one game. And if you are going to base some if your argument in lads having played the game and living it, well then they should be out following Linerick FC, Cork City etc. basically I don’t buy that.

The thing is I have little issue at all with lads following whoever, it’s just when they run down others following another team or sport (based un their own country) it’s hugely hypocritical, ironic and a stupid waste of time really.

I think we covered that rugby is not a sport, just some contrived physical activity for lads who aren’t good at real sports.

[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 924610, member: 273”]Very pertinent point.

Ye can point to all the people who lived in Birmingham all ye want, there is good reason for that type of following, but the majority of “fans” have never been to more than one game. And if you are going to base some if your argument in lads having played the game and living it, well then they should be out following Linerick FC, Cork City etc. basically I don’t buy that.

The thing is I have little issue at all with lads following whoever, it’s just when they run down others following another team or sport (based un their own country) it’s hugely hypocritical, ironic and a stupid waste of time really.[/QUOTE]

Rugby isn’t a sport and people don’t support it, that’s our main point, they go on the beer while it’s played in the background.

Complete bollix.

But carry on.

That’s what soccer is for in rural Ireland fella.
Every soccer club was set up by disenchanted gaa lads.

[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 924648, member: 273”]That’s what soccer is for in rural Ireland fella.
Every soccer club was set up by disenchanted gas lads.[/QUOTE]

Rural Oireland is noted for being the home of slack-jawed neanderthals.

So we can take away all the numbers the FAI use for participation rates based on rural activity. Sounds fair, while I definitely see soccer as a sport, a very enjoyable one at that, I think for the purposes of judging sports/non-sports we can say all rural soccer does NOT qualify as sport. Which is fair, as they mostly can’t play it as they are failed GAA players anyway and are usually pretty useless at anything sports wise.

Listen, I know you started this as a way of having a hop off Bandage, but you’ve completely missed the point on why most people here dislike rugby. I’ve nothing against real rugby men, and by that I mean club men, I know enough of them…but I’m not going over old ground. From my own point of view and life experience, most lads I knew from between 4-20 were soccer fans from a very young age. I’d say 5% played rugby, but soccer, and particularly the premiership was all we talked about. It has far more tradition in this country than provincial rugby.

It wasn’t actually, it was CCHA’s post that reminded me. Bandage chose to take offence to me talking T&G truth about a lot of the Irish dross that “follows” Celtic.
I have no problem with “real” Liverpool/soccer fans either. Whatever “real” means.
It’s the sheet effort ye put into disliking rugby when ye follow foreign teams. A lot of the new rugby supporters are attaching themselves to something that represents them.
I’m really at odds to figure out what a lad from Limerick or Cork can have a real true attachment to Liverpool. Now Liverpool is easily the most likeable English club and I like it’s people, city and it’s culture, but for any Irish person who has no direct link to that club or city to then give out about Itish people following an Irish team is beyond bizarre, hypocritical and extremely insecure.

Don’t get me wrong, there are plenty wankers following the rugby, but % wise I doubt it goes over the average dickhead you’ll find shouting in a bar about Man U of whatever.

I began supporting Liverpool around the 1987/88 season. Barely remember it but I recall people going crazy about them. I supported them, partly because they were the best team, but mainly because they had a lot of Irish players.

I remember Hillsborough pretty vividly. I remember Peter Beardsley hitting the crossbar. I remember people being on the pitch behind the Forest goal. I remember Neil Webb turning around in despair as he watched what was going on. I was feeling under the weather at the time and soon after I retired to bed. My brother’s kept calling in with the death toll 10, 20 50, 70, 90 etc.

In the ‘replay’ I recall Aldo rubbing the head of Brian Laws after he scored an own goal. He got a bit of stick for that given all that happened.

I was playing football out on our sileage pit concrete slab for much of Liverpool Arsenal 1989. I fell and got a nasty gash on my elbow. I remember thinking that it was utterly incredible that Arsenal did it.

Like @Sidney I wasn’t much a fan of the Souness years but mainly because we were utter shite. He also got rid of Whelan, Houghton, Staunton and Beardsley. I do recall Mark Walters getting the winner in a 3-0 win in a European tie versus Auxerre having been 2-0 down for the first leg.

It was the 1994/95 season where I became obessed with Liverpool. They beat Palace 6-1 away on the opening game, the same weekend Leitrim played Dublin in the 1994 All Ireland semi. They lost narrowly to United and Newcastle and beat Blackburn 3-1 in the League Cup. They were playing excellent stuff and had the novel 3 centre backs. McManaman and Fowler were great to watch. When we bought Collymore at the end of that season I was sure we were going to win the league but we never really recaptured the excitement of that season. I actually shed a tear when United beat us in the FA Cup final in 1996 giving them the 'double double… ‘Cantona, yes indeed!!’ said George Hamilton.

Next was the Houllier era. I liked him initially, mainly for cast Ince aside. He also bought Didi who I thought was a super player at Newcastle and Hyppia who was a real gem. 2001 was the year of the 3 cups (not a treble, or year of the 5 cups as Houllier would have you believe). That was great but I never liked the mentality of Houllier with his ten men behind the ball. As the seaons progressed I learned to hate Houllier and his carry on. I rejoiced when he got the boot.

Rafa’s first season was incredible. In ways I have never come to terms with it. I refuse to say it was a jammy win because we beat whatever was put in front of us, some very good teams at that. I could write an essay on that night but suffice to say it was my best ever night as a Liverpool supporter. I liked Rafa and 2009 was the best I saw Liverpool play ever probably but then he began to revert to old Houllier type lines of winning Charity Shields and Super Cups. In the end I thought it was best that he left.

If 2009 was the best I had seen Liverpool, 2010 was the worst. The club in ruins thanks to Gillette and Hicks, us being linked with Paul Scharner on a Bosman during the summer, the likes of Paul Konchesky and Christian Poulsen playing for us. We were acually in the relegation zone and who knows what would happen. I was delighted when Kenny took over again and turned around the season. I had big hopes for the following season but always disputed the signing of Andy Carroll. Not even for the amount of money but more for the fact that top teams play with the False 9 or even a mobile striker and that wasn’t Carroll. Some of the signings were awful (Downing, Adam) - I thought it best that Kenny left.

I was happy enough with the Rodgers choice, certainly preferred him to Martinez and I thought we were going in the right direction last season. This season has been simply incredible and is a throw back to 2009. Hopefully we can hold on in there.

In terms of players we all love Fowler and McManaman. Had Stevie not asked to leave that time, he would be the definite winner. I loved (emphasise ‘d’) Torres - the amount of games which he won with a moment of striker brilliance are incredible. He definitely blotted his copy book with the Chelsea move. Suarez is incredible but I never just warmed to him. That is certainly changing now.

My favourite Liverpool players would be John Alridge (always loved the scally head of him), Sami Hyypia and Didi Hamann (because they were immense and loved the club). I also loved Xabi Alonso as a player but didn’t like when he left.

YNWA

Justice of the 96

Jesus. See what I’m talking about, insecurity.

Is it not Justice for the 96?

Bluffing as well, well spotted Mac.

And bandwagoning, stoppe following them cos they were shit. :rolleyes:

Justice for the 39, no?

No

[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 924734, member: 273”]It wasn’t actually, it was CCHA’s post that reminded me. Bandage chose to take offence to me talking T&G truth about a lot of the Irish dross that “follows” Celtic.
I have no problem with “real” Liverpool/soccer fans either. Whatever “real” means.
It’s the sheet effort ye put into disliking rugby when ye follow foreign teams. A lot of the new rugby supporters are attaching themselves to something that represents them.
I’m really at odds to figure out what a lad from Limerick or Cork can have a real true attachment to Liverpool. Now Liverpool is easily the most likeable English club and I like it’s people, city and it’s culture, but for any Irish person who has no direct link to that club or city to then give out about Itish people following an Irish team is beyond bizarre, hypocritical and extremely insecure.

Don’t get me wrong, there are plenty wankers following the rugby, but % wise I doubt it goes over the average dickhead you’ll find shouting in a bar about Man U of whatever.[/QUOTE]

Well, pal, as long as you realise I am also a massive Beatles fan and know everything about the history and people of Liverpool then I don’t mind how the rest of this conversation pans out… But the violent ‘us’ and ‘we’ arguments that go on are hilarious to sit back and listen to alright… But then on the other side of it, read back over some of my own or Sid’s posts here, as nippers we were glued to static am frequency radio listening to mid-week games, we slept in Liverpool pjs, had Liverpool lunch boxes, it was our religion- I remember when travelling in NZ, getting out of bed at 2/3am just to follow games by text commentary back in 03 before streaming and the likes…Rugby doesn’t have any of that is all I am saying. And yeah, it’s great there is something local that these piss heads are tapping into, but 90% is casual following- You would also be surprised at the number of Irish that attend games weekly in England… Go onto the soccer forums at Boards.ie for a flavour and you’ll see an amount of lads saying they are heading over every week, it’s a massive market… As for true attachment- Munster used to get 200/300 at their games up to about 98…Just because something is local doesn’t mean it is any more legit or deserves more of our support than something ‘foreign’ -I feel more affinity towards the New England Patriots than I do with Munster Rugby.

The majority of lads going to England every week are just event junkies that the travel agents role in just like the rugby lads. Can you not see it’s the same thing?
I get the emotional attachment, but it’s to YOUR youth and your mates, not Liverpool FC.