Losing My Religion

We were denied our rightful place

Can all the non-Catholics and ala carte Catholics please stop depriving Catholics like Scarto and Argento their rightful place in Catholic education.

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Educate together schools are for hippies

Having said that I developed some life-long mediocre friends that I might not have otherwise.

We send both ours to private school, which will delight the usual suspects. England is such a fucking dump that it’s a way of keeping them slightly less in harms way.
What I don’t recognise is @fenwaypark s (and I always pay great attention to fenway) experience that parents who pay are more invested.
Personally I pay so I don’t have to be as invested. I certainly haven’t been, but I’ll try and show a bit more interest. The fees become a fact of life, like the mortgage, which you forget about day to day.
Private schools tend to do better as they have few if any discipline issues, which the state schools in manc have a frankly remarkable exposure to, and because they are selective. At my lads school, for instance, if you don’t get an average of an A grade across the board at gcse (inter cert) they kick you out. We are expecting the letter at the end of this year telling us to start looking for another school as he’s unlikely to make the cut.
At my lass school, not only was there an entrance exam, there was an interview for her with the headmistress, vice head, and head of her year, and the parents are also interviewed by the Head and deputy head before a place is offered.
It’s mad Ted.

This shite is far more snide than just openly sending them to private school. As for @TheUlteriorMotive story about paying a bribe to get them up the state school list, effectively displacing kids who’s parents can’t afford it, that’s utterly appalling.
One thing I know is that there is absolutely nothing fair about school entrance policy. It’s who you know, not where you live, or anything much else. Our lad didn’t get into the first state school we applied to on account of distance to the school they said. Our next door neighbour (further away), the ultimate sharp elbowed gaelscoil type, got her son in though. :man_shrugging:

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Did you ever play soggy biscuit?

No. Lots and lots of chess.

There has a been a huge movement of families from places like Howth, Sutton and Castleknock to the Dorset Street and Summerhill areas in recent years because of proximity to Belvedere

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They may be good schools but I’m a bit puzzled as to why people think children will get a better education in them

Let’s face it, Irish is basically not spoken at all in this country

It doesn’t seem like a particularly clever idea to me to educate a child through a language they won’t speak and won’t have any use for in the real world

And I attended a Gaelscoil

Depends what you mean by “better education”. To the majority of people, better education simply means more points in the leaving cert, and that’s fair enough really considering how the points system works with college

I would imagine some of the attraction with Colaiste Eoin/Iosagain etc is that Gaelscoils get a 10% bonus in the Leaving in a lot of subjects

Em, he was saying the opposite, that they aren’t racist

You were the person saying they were racist

Scarleh for the four simpletons who liked your post

Do you use algebra often? Or chemistry? German isn’t spoken in this country either. Shakespeare?

German is the language of love

That may be - but a lot of what you do in school is just an exercise for your brain / development - you dont use it in life. Learning and speaking a different language / switching back and forth between two or more languages , has a major, positive, impact on brain development. The merits about learning a language that’s not widely spoken is a different one - but kids learn French / German all the time and never use it.

People use chemistry and Algebra regularly in their line of work, how many use Irish unless they’re teaching it?

It’s been shown actually that learning languages develops the brain. Why wouldn’t it?
I’d love my kids to speak irish, it’s a lovely language, with nuance unique to it, like all languages I suppose.

Civil service / EU / media- and of course, any job in the gaeltacht regions … and there’s teaching of course.

Bilingual kids are better at maths apparently - it develops attention to detail.