Madeline McCann Thread

Amazing to see how lots of people here know exactly how they’d act if their child was abducted.

“Well I wouldn’t have said that so they must have done it.”

I made the grave error of opening the link that @Malarkey posted. I made it through about five of them. One of the says a friend at first said he went into their apartment and then said he didn’t actually go past the door. Hang them!!

An absolutely unimaginable tragedy and that’s all any of us can say for certain.

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Every time I see that stuff here it kind of breaks my heart to think that I’d something like this happened to one of my kids then millions of people who would only know me from what they saw on the media would say the exact same about me and my wife.

How does anybody know for sure how they’d react to that situation,

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Agreed.

What likely happened the McCanns was they were pulled in too many directions. You’d the British police, the Portuguese police and both countries media who were all in their ears. You likely had ex detectives as well in their ears.

I’d imagine they’d no idea who to listen to and I’d say when certain parties weren’t being listened to it caused tension. The media coverage was intense and there was a lot off money at stake.

I’d say the Portuguese police fucked things up at the beginning by maybe not taking it seriously. Vital time was lost. When it went global then they realised intense scrutiny would look terrible on them so creating a story about the parents would always create a stir and get various motives off the ground.

That’s my suspicion. After a day or two they knew the child would likely never be found and people panicked at the global media reaction.

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Absolute fucking mentalists.

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I dont think you would have reacted the same or anyone here. A reaction expected would be to do everything including actually searchimg and assisting the police with any questions. Too many own goals from the mccans to be just mistakes hence why i think that they had something to do with it.

If she was abducted by a sick ring, someone would have taken the reward and ratted. Honour amoung thieves etc or becaue it was so high profile she would be dead and the body found again based on the reward for info.

The other scenario a desperate family kidnapped her to raise as their own, no way you can taise a child without social media finding the now adult maddie etc

I think this suspect will not be charged

That aspect, as I said, is the most troubling and perplexing one. There is the possibility that the other parents were also sedating their children, binding the group in wrongdoing. There are other theories as well. Which or whether, as I also said, the friends’ statements, individually and collectively, are not credible.

The core aspect of this case is the cadaver dogs. No one, including the McCanns, has ever been able to account for the fact those dogs marked cadaver odour and blood in both the apartment’s sittingroom and the McCanns’ bedroom as well as in the children’s bedroom. Then the dogs marked cadaver odour and blood on a hire car the McCanns took well after Thursday May 3, the day they claim their daughter was abducted. The cadaver dogs’ evidence implies a timeline for the poor little girl’s death, the concealment of her.body, and the disposal of her body (where the missing hour on the journey to Huelva on August 3 might be significant).

I am well aware Jill Havern is a fruitcake in many regards. This factor does not change the collation of various facts. Equally, the extraordinary response to this case by British officialdom at the highest levels is fact – an aspect that tends to draw in people such as Jill Havern but which nevertheless does not alter certain facts.

The usual suspects are following me around, mad for my attention, mad to ‘disagree’. I am not going to get into a slanging match with childish people when the topic is a child’s death and disappearance. There is almost no evidence of abduction. There is a dismaying wealth of evidence the McCanns were not telling the truth and have never told the truth. Just the way they both deleted phone data, in and itself, remains highly suspicious.

I became interested in the details of this case, after a friend said to me he could not accept the McCanns were involved. He now fully accepts they were.

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I understand this response in human terms. But the evidence against the McCanns goes way way beyond their oddness and seeming coldness.

I respectfully disagree because I can’t actually assume how I would react, I don’t think anybody can.
What I could predict is that no matter my reaction people would have picked holes in it and people on Internet forums etc would say that I killed my own child, and I find that disgusting.

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Maybe read all the observations. There is devil in the detail.

A quick flick through this chap’s Twitter will demonstrate that he too is a fruitcake.

https://twitter.com/peterfhyatt?lang=en

This is not coincidence.

As goes JFK and 9/11, so too the McCann case, a magnet for money and attention hungry conspiracy nuts.

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I find it very hard to believe they’d have disposed off the body and that it wasn’t found. Sure didn’t they turn up half of Portugal looking for her.

If you even focus on this part alone it seems very unrealistic the parents were involved. Say they did sedate her too much and she died, and they decided to dispose of the body, where do they go? They’re in a foreign country a tourist area with scorched earth all around you. Are they going to be so quick thinking and of clear mind as to bury their daughter in a deep grave before the authorities and media move in? Where have they got the shovels? A hardware store? What about cctv and witnesses to foreigners in the area buying shovels? There’s a string of difficulties or impracticalites you’d feel for foreigners to engage in this task with haste. Was Gerry McCann driving around at night looking over ditches with a flash lamp looking for suitable places to bury her? I sincerely doubt it.

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Yes exactly you’ve a great mind for these things.

It would be highly unlikely somebody wouldn’t have spotted them purchasing a shovel or something.

Even getting a body out of the apartment in what was a busy area Is highly unlikely not to have been seen by somebody.

I’m fairly sure the McCanns were being advised by many people and that’s why their stories don’t add up.

You are making the same mistake most people make, one I also made. You are looking at this case in an emotional but abstract way.

Start with the cadaver dogs’ evidence, which cannot be gainsaid.

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That could be said of anyone that kidnapped her. Agree though that the McCann’s probably weren’t involved as dodgy as some of their actions were

I’m not subscribing to the theory the parents are culpable with this response but that element I’ve highlighted I don’t think true. If the child was overdosed on a sedative then carrying a limp child that looks asleep in the father’s arms to a car isn’t at all out of the ordinary.

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Was it earlier in the week the piece said she likely died? The McCanns were very high functioning professionals, they could probably figure it out if they had the real will to do it. There are other ways apart from burying as well such as the ocean

Portugal is supposed to be quite a poor country, 15 years ago, probably plenty of places with no CCTV.

Not really. Two hours is a long time before it was raised and probably another two hours before it went country wide. You could be at sea or in Spain probably by then.

That’s why I firmly believe the Portuguese police floated the idea of the parents being involved as they made a balls of things at the start and wanted to cover their tracks when things went global.

Without anybody seeing it and mentioning it in the aftermath ? I’m not so sure…