Did that happen here?
No it wasn’t, it was their first lead. Main plank of argument is an entirely different thing. If or when it gets to court you’ll see what the main plank of the prosecution’s argument is.
Do you think the police or DPP should publish the book of evidence before the trial? Should it all be published to satisfy your curiosity? If it isn’t does that mean there’s no evidence?
In the words of Harry Redknapp, this goes “right to the top, right to the very top”.
It was probably the most covered story on the planet for six weeks or so ?
No, they largely knew each other well.
David Payne & Fiona Payne/Dianne Webster: DP and Kate McCann had been medical students together at University of Dundee in later 1980s and early 1990s. The McCanns and the Paynes had holidayed together previously, as with a 2005 trip to Majorca. DW is DP’s mother. = Very close connections for 20 years.
Russell O’Brien & Jane Tanner: RO’B knew Gerry McCann from a time when they both had lived and worked in Leicester. JT was RO’B’s partner at the time. = Close connections for seven years.
Matthew Oldfield & Rachel Oldfield: MO studied medicine with RO’B, DP and FP at University of Leicester in 1990s. They became friendly with the McCanns when the latter moved to Leicestershire in 2000. = Close connections for seven years.
This is mental.
Try not to be so pompous. Pomposity is like ignorance’s version of fake tan.
Here is a nice one for you to be going on with:
16. On the night Madeleine was reported missing, two sets of police arrived, the local GNR, and then the national force, the PJ. On the first occasion, Gerry McCann fell down on his knees, spreading out his arms on the ground, rather like a Muslim at prayer. On the second occasion, both Gerry and Kate McCann repeated that same strange gesture, on the double bed in their apartment, in front of the PJ.
The conspiracy theory here is that Gerry McCann is a Freemason and was sending out the distress signal Freemasons broadcast when imploring help.
Not sure myself, needless to add, but I have long thought Freemasonry exerts an enormous amount of hidden power in Britain. I would reckon Freemasonry played, over the decades, a powerful part not just in judicial appointments and policing ones but in academic ones. There is a credible argument that Jimmy Savile’s notorious (and well known) offending was facilitated by Freemason circles.
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I’ve never really went beyond the surface in this case… Can someone expand on the abduction theory and how the supposed abductor picked them out as targets. Was the apartment easily accessible and visible from the street? Or was it a commune type apartment? What I’m asking is how does some randomer zero in on them and follow their movements, location, access to apartment etc. etc so easily? How many other similar abductions , or attempts, were reported in the area over the years? It would seem like one in a million type odds that this was a first time abduction it went down so successfully.
What’s this now?
They really aren’t close in tanland, honestly. Holidays of convenience, as swathes of middle England seem afraid to go on holidays on their own 
I’m not going to answer your strawmanning any further.
The jailhouse snitch was certainly the main plank of evidence in their initial press release. I’m not sure where you are going with your non-sequitor about a book of evidence. I’ve made myself quite clear in simple language above.
Sure lookit, all the “evidence” they had led them to a series of very public very fruitless digs.
But you don’t need “hard evidence”
It’s a good job the Magdalena laundries are finished with you an organ of the state.
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Sure you’d believe pigs can fly.
You seem to have nothing to back up the theory you first suggested.
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Flatty there’s no strawmanning here. The only things I’m putting up to you are basic principles of how criminal justice systems work. How is the book of evidence a non sequitur? That’s where the evidence is. You’re saying they have no hard evidence. How do you know that? Of course not all the evidence is going to be published in advance. All the stuff you’re saying is contradictory.
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Getting rattled.
I did not suggest a theory. I said there are many strange details in this case that do not add up to abduction. But I have no problem admitting that I am confounded by certain aspects, such as where the body was stored and the friends’ motivation to keep schtum.
Meanwhile you have no interest in why the McCanns, among much strange behaviour, deleted phone data and obstructed the investigation – which they did, as a matter of fact – because your gravitation to this topic derives from wanting my attention and thinking you are getting some kudos by disagreeing with me. You are a psychological type I have often encountered before online.
If it suits me, I will dig out the anomalies that suggest MMcC quite possibly died earlier in the week. That she truly was present at the kids club on the Thursday morning is contested. The McCanns’ preoccupation with asserting she was present hints at a prior recognition on their part of how they needed to frame the week.
By the way, you would want to be extraordinarily gullible not to recognize how powerful Freemasonry was (and remains) in Britain.
Like you couldn’t be more wrong anyway about disagreeing with you for the sake of it. I posted on this topic long before you. You give yourself way too much credit. Not everybody is always going to agree with you.
I’m generally intrigued by the case.
As I said many weeks ago I’d say there was intense pressure on the McCanns by various parties and were probably advised by people to do certain things.
This has led to things looking odd and also I’d imagine they felt very guilty over leaving the kids alone.
Whatever about the potential of them being involved the idea that the other 7 was pie in the sky stuff to me.
If you have evidence to suggest Madeline wasn’t at the kids club I’d like to see it.
I know exactly what you mean about that middle class English coldness. But these people knew each other well.
There is a most odd anomaly where David Payne, by common consent, called round to the McCanns’ apartment at half six on the Thursday evening, when Kate McCann and the children were inside. He says she let him in. She says she did not. I have read interesting speculation on whether some class of an assignation between them, with Gerry McCann’s agreement, was in the air. It is notable how similar Kate McCann and Fiona Payne look.
But all speculation, of course.
I do not want people to agree with me. Quite the opposite. And how could anyone agree with me, in any case, since this tragedy will never be definitively solved in all likelihood? I am just irritated by your ‘make it up as I go along’ schtick. There are glaring inconsistencies in the McCanns’ behaviour that you blithely ignore. If you were genuinely interested in the case, you would not wave away such details.
The amount of suspicious characters was mad as well. I know they were all pretty much cleared but it’s still a bit scary.
Fairly simple-minded stuff, sketchy and highly generalized.