Signing in. Amazing series. Calls the whole adversarial legal system into question. What use is it if proven liars, such as Colburn and Lenk, are not held to account for their perjury under oath. Chilling at times to see colburn sitting directly behind brendan dassy as his case progressed.
No way was avery going to get a fair trial in that county. How could he? How could the jurors, all locals, go up against the good ol boys sheriffs department who were in court staring them down every day. The jury had to live the rest of their lives at the mercy of those cops. Led by a chief who suggested, on tv, that they could easily have just killed a man if they wanted to get rid of him, why bother setting him up. It might not have even been that subtle if reports are true that jurors were directly pressured.
The case was decided by media, when kratz came out and said brendan confessed to assisting his monster uncle with tieing up and raping and killing her. All jurors and public were watching that, and it was based only on a false forced confession.
The filmmakers let themselves down massively painting the roomate and ex as suspects, watery as fuck and i agree with labane that they were afraid to go after bobby dassy, the key suspect here. He was there, with a bogus alibi proved false by the bus driver, had a gun. How were her bones found in the gravel pit so far away, that is almost forgotten about. Is it just a coincidence that this happened the same time as the towm could have been cleaned out with a legal bill and in the middle of depositions. Thats the truly unreal part about this. Colburn was standing behind the rav4 when he rang in to check the licence plate. Lenk planted the key. How did it play out, where was the key and the jeep. Did the murderer ditch it, was it found by the cops out of pure luck and then planted in the yard for that jesus freak searcher to find thanks to gods guidance. No doubt avery is a headcase but he simply has to get a retrial.
Hopefully that prick len, his investigator malcolm o kelly and the cops who twisted the statements and planted evidence are fired from this.
This makes the most sense to me. I really think the beother in law is a major suspect, and possibly the older nephew. I canât imagine the discussions about changes in everyones lives being balanced with a sit down at sunday lunch. Going by the general intelligence there was probably alot of back stabbing and bitching.
I think its fairly unlikely the cops would go to those lengths but they certainly saw a chance for shutting down the lawsuit.
Iâm 100% he didnât do it though. The conversations with his family in prison said alot to me. They were very genuine IMO. And his intelligence considered and the whole package has me convinced.
Iâve concluded my investigations and Iâm happy to report that Scott Tadych and Bobby Dassey are the most likely culprits.
The cops found the car, immediately decided it was Steven and set about making sure they had the evidence to convict him. They may have even believed they had the right man to begin with.
Sadly I donât see any way out of this for Steven at the moment.
something doesnât add up about brendan. I donât think heâs kaiser soze or something, but he struggled to speak openly to his mother, she was so domineering, yet theirs were most of the conversations we saw him involved in. what reason would his cousin have for lying or saying she made it up when she recanted her statement in the box? is it possible he was there at or soon after the murder, and lost weight and broke down repeatedly because of it. But when it was clear the cops had only one suspect in mind pressure was put on him, by possibly his step father or brother, to further implicate that suspect, steven. He was barely functional and his terrible performance in the box ultimately condemned him, but why would the cousin make something like that up. was the pressure applied to her by relatives to put brendan in it, knowing he could be easily pushed around by cops hell bent on getting steven.
Young, dumb and listening to rubbish from maybe friends or family.
People who are of low intelligence find it hard to process complicated situations and will accept anything they are told as it makes it easier to solve the puzzle in their head.
Yep - agree with consensus here as to the prime suspects.
Key question for me is how Teresaâs bones got into the pit on the Avery residence.
In order for that to happen she must have been killed there in my view. Donât think the bones could have been planted by cops or by search team. There is no evidence on Steven so Scott and Bobby must come into focus.
by defence accounts, the bones were burned to such a degree of heat that the body had to have been burned in a container and not in the open, ie a barrel. So it would be quit easy to burn in a barrel and then empty it into a pit. Hence why they found bones in a barrel nearby, and in the quarry a couple of miles away. That would also make sense as to why her blood was in the boot of her car too. wherever she was killed, she was moved and burned and the remnants brought to the open fire pit.
I can see the case crossing the sports/real life divide. Say the Packers beat the shit out of the redskins on sunday, youâll have a lot of hungover and disgruntled justice department workers on Monday morning wondering how they can sew it into those cocky cheese fed Wisconsin fucks. And now the perfect opportunity. The lads would probably be up searching the sheriffs department in their kirk cousins jerseys.
My favourite part of the series. The way Strang took Kratzâs metaphor and delivered that response off the cuff. Unreal, unbelievable.
Kratz: âBut if we have to start this case swimming upstream, if you will, in the face of some instruction given to the jury that they should be taking some negative view of the state, then we intend to proceed on all six counts.â
Strang: "All due respect to counsel, the state is supposed to start every criminal case âswimming upstreamâ. And the strong current against which the state is supposed to be swimming is the presumption of innocence. That presumption of innocence has been erodedâif not eliminatedâhere by the spectre of Brendan Dassey, and thatâs why the court needs to take further curative action.
Up through the WFRV report last night, for example, Steven Avery has been presented as the man who allegedly raped, mutilated, and murdered Theresa Halbach. How many times will Steven Avery be charged in Manitowoc County with rapes he didnât commit? This makes two.
Now forget getting the 18 years back on the first one: where do we go to get the last 10 months back? Where do we go to get our presumption of innocence back from a public who believesâand has heard time and againâthat heâs an alleged rapist, even before murder."
Just finished it cracking watch, I still cannot figure it out though I was on the fence all through and would be undecided still.Must read into this extra evidence though, chains and loads of bleach?? Bought by who? No brainer if true.
Sorry, pal⌠No one really cares if that piece of white trash lives or dies now. Well educated Muslim terrorists are raping half of Europe and Enda is cancelling 1916 commemorative celebrationsâŚweâve bigger fish to try.
