Manchester United 17/18


#381

And some people in the crowd were rustling crisp bags


#382

John Giles: I’m sick to my back teeth of the Class of '92 and the overwhelming sense of entitlement

I’M sick to my back teeth of the Class of '92 and the overwhelming sense of entitlement which seems to govern everything they have done since the days when Alex Ferguson and a lot of other good players helped them win all before them at Old Trafford.

The thought came into my head when I was reading what Ryan Giggs had to say about a range of subjects when he met the media for a Wales squad announcement in midweek.

He had plenty to say about Pep Guardiola’s Manchester City in the Premier League and offered a judgement that they could not be considered great until they had a medal collection like his.

He also told the world that Gareth Bale is happy at Real Madrid, which is really none of his business.

Guardiola has 18 months under his belt in Manchester and in that short time, he has produced a team which is exceptional and will host last year’s champions Chelsea at the Etihad on Sunday with 19 points separating the two teams.

He already has a trophy under his belt and if Guardiola stays for ten seasons, then perhaps a comparison could be made with Ferguson’s great teams but until then, any comment is a waste of breath.

Giggs is the Wales manager and in my opinion, blessed to have the job. He has no experience; in fact, no management CV at all. He is entitled to an opinion, but he is a novice and it is a rare thing when speaking out loud about another coach’s team is a good idea.

He may turn out to be good at it, but I never saw Giggs as a natural manager and there is no doubt that he traded heavily on his record as a player to be even considered for the position.

Remember how put out Giggs and his pals the Neville brothers and Paul Scholes were when he wasn’t anointed as Louis van Gaal’s successor at Manchester United?

Gary Neville got to live the dream, walking out of the Sky studios and taking the job at Valencia with no experience and as it very soon emerged, no clue about managing a football club.

Long before that, he was indulged and allowed to remain on as a Sky pundit despite his role as England No. 2.

This is the same Gary Neville who lacerated Arsene Wenger for being “arrogant and naïve”.

A few weeks ago, his brother Phil, with a few coaching badges and a short spell working as a coach under David Moyes at Everton and then at Old Trafford, was appointed the England women’s team manager.

Again, he might turn out to be a great choice but like his brother, he has no miles on the clock as the manager of anything other than himself.

I should qualify my opening statement by pointing out that at least one member of the Class of '92 didn’t need any help in developing a life away from Old Trafford.

David Beckham now owns his own football club, smart enough to realise that he is no manager and not minded to push himself into a job he is not suited too.

Paul Scholes sits carping on the sidelines after he failed to get a job as a coach at Old Trafford and seems a bit lost for something to do.

All of this simply underlines the one thing that Gary Neville, in particular, has failed spectacularly to understand. It’s hard being a manager.

From all of the players who worked under Ferguson and played with the Class of '92, not one has emerged as a very successful manager at the top level.

This is a point which Thierry Henry should take note of too.

He is being touted as Arsenal’s answer to Guardiola if he succeeds Arsene Wenger, but all I can see is a poor pundit who has stabbed his old boss in the back for a job he is poorly qualified to do.

Being Henry, the great striker, is not enough even if he is arrogant enough to believe it is.


#383

Think this cements FOTF status for JG


#384

Giles is an utter clown that nobody has listened to since 2007


#385

Show some respect.


#386

I love listening to Gilesy, a top top bloke whos forgotten more about football than yer man would learn in 10 lifetimes from his barstool. Just because Gilesy isn’t great with names and loves to reminisce he’s become an easy target, he still knows the game inside out.


#387

What was his opinion on Ronaldo?


#388

Did he get something wrong? I don’t recall.


#389

I think he called one if the greatest players of all time a fraud


#390

He always rated him top drawer as evidenced by his two goal haul on the biggest stage of all in the World Cup Final.


#391

He always rated top drawer?


#392

Giles couldn’t understand why Gareth bale wasn’t getting in the English team a few years back.


#393

This is bizarre.


#394

Great catch there Matty :clap:


#395

He always demanded more of him like a teacher demands more of a bright kid versus a dunce.

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The big nights were made for Ronaldo. The matches were made for Ronaldo. Even last night, I was watching it and it was typical Ronaldo – he hadn’t had a kick of the ball, didn’t influence the game at all in general play – and he scores two goals.

John believes that Ronaldo’s adaptation from a wide forward to an out-and-out poacher shows the different characteristics that he has brought into his game.

“That’s his game. My summing up of Ronaldo is, in general play, he’s not bothered. But when it comes to scoring a goal, or getting in a position to score a goal – he’s an absolute genius.”

“He knows before he goes out on the pitch that if you are the goalscorer, you are going to be the hero and the star. So he concentrates on that.

“I’ve never known a player with his ability go for fifty minutes without touching the ball, and not be bothered. But he can do it, and when it comes to a goal-scoring chance, he becomes a genius.”_


#396

The man is in his mid seventies in fairness.


#397

Gilesy drinks in an Irish club beside me. An absolute gent. One of his sons is high up in the West mids police, based in our area.


#398

Man U trailing to an early Andros Townsend goal at Selhurst Park after 35 minutes.


#399

Watching this . That young McTominay made a good choice in opting for Scotland .


#400

I called Sanchez as a Major cunt long before he signed for United. Total Mercenary.