[QUOTE=“Mark Renton, post: 921958, member: 1796”]The story doing the rounds is that the class of 92 boys are planning a coup and Moyes will be stabbed in the back
I’m currently serving a week long ban from the whole site, mate. I am permanently banned from the Limerick board tho and have a 6 month one from the rugger board… I’m a mad, mad bastard.
[QUOTE=“chewy louie, post: 921806, member: 1137”]I don’t think it is as bad a people make out. They certainly need to get rid of Moyes and get a far better/more proven manager in. Moyes is hopelessly out of his depth. But I think if they got the likes of a Louis Van Gaal/Spaletti/Bielsa along with a dominant centre half and a quality central midfielder in they would be a far better side. The problem is the players realise Moyes is a waste of space and Moyes is unable to get them to play any kind of decent high tempo football
With De Gea, Mata, Januzaj, Rooney, Kagawa, RVP and a lesser extent* Rafael, Carrick, Evra & Jones there is the nucleus of a good side there along with lads like Evans, Smalling, Valencia, Welbeck etc who are decent squad players to have available.
I don’t particularly rate any of the four lads listed here but they all have their uses and are solid players on their day and would be more than capable of functioning at a high level in a side that is organised and playing with a bit of confidence[/QUOTE]
I certainly think any of the 3 coaches you’ve mentioned would immetiately give them an identity, a style, a consistent formation and a path to success. They also have the resources to support any of those in building a team to fit that model, though they’d be in much better shape if they had a proper director of football in there who ensured there was much better continuity in the quality and style of players they had.
Having said that, I don’t know that would still be enough to challenge in Europe or even England on a consistent basis. Maybe they would challenge alright, but it certainly wouldn’t be anything close to their previous domination. They could have a good team with a handful of additions but they’d still lack a squad. Even City are finding that out (or should be) that you need 3 centre backs of decent quality. They have one, United have somewhere between none and one. I don’t think either full back is good enough and I think they needat least two quality centre midfielders, but probably 3.
I feel a bit for Moyes. A nice, decent man but so was Frank O’Farrell. Fergie left him a weak squad after years of underinvestment and Moyes is left to deal with the catastrophic fall-out from it. The job looks too much for him - he’s not a United manager. Just doesn’t have that ruthlessness, the swagger, the brass neck that’s needed.
Been a disaster almost from day one - removing the existing successful coaching staff, bringing in mediocre yes men like Steve Round, Jimmy Lumsden and Phil Neville, the panic buys, the awful tactics and dire football, the terrible, negative vibes he gives off (“we’ll try and hopefully win”), constantly downplaying expectations etc. It’s gone too far now, a parting of the ways is the best for all concerned. The job looks like it could kill him. If there was some semblance that he was building for the future and there looked to be some sort of a plan I’d back him fully but there is nothing from his time at Everton or since last August to suggest he’ll turn it around with attractive, exciting football. Trophies are great and all but it’s the dour, shit-on-a-stick, dull, caveman football which is the most damning indictment of his reign. It’s just not the United way.
Anyway two decades of pretty much guaranteed success so can’t moan that much. Take the rough with the smooth.
20 times, 20 times Man United… 20 times, 20 times I say…
[QUOTE=“dodgy-keeper, post: 922046, member: 1552”]I feel a bit for Moyes. A nice, decent man but so was Frank O’Farrell. Fergie left him a weak squad after years of underinvestment and Moyes is left to deal with the catastrophic fall-out from it. The job looks too much for him - he’s not a United manager. Just doesn’t have that ruthlessness, the swagger, the brass neck that’s needed.
Been a disaster almost from day one - removing the existing successful coaching staff, bringing in mediocre yes men like Steve Round, Jimmy Lumsden and Phil Neville, the panic buys, the awful tactics and dire football, the terrible, negative vibes he gives off (“we’ll try and hopefully win”), constantly downplaying expectations etc. It’s gone too far now, a parting of the ways is the best for all concerned. The job looks like it could kill him. If there was some semblance that he was building for the future and there looked to be some sort of a plan I’d back him fully but there is nothing from his time at Everton or since last August to suggest he’ll turn it around with attractive, exciting football. Trophies are great and all but it’s the dour, shit-on-a-stick, dull, caveman football which is the most damning indictment of his reign. It’s just not the United way.
Anyway two decades of pretty much guaranteed success so can’t moan that much. Take the rough with the smooth.
20 times, 20 times Man United… 20 times, 20 times I say… [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=“Mark Renton, post: 921958, member: 1796”]The story doing the rounds is that the class of 92 boys are planning a coup and Moyes will be stabbed in the back
Manchester United’s troubled defence of their Premier League title is harming the English top flight’s worldwide brand, says the competition’s chief executive Richard Scudamore.
Under new boss David Moyes, United are seventh in a disappointing campaign.
The 20-time champions are 18 points adrift of leaders Chelsea.
“It’s a double-edged sword,” said Scudamore. “When your most popular club isn’t doing as well, that costs you interest and audience in some places.”
Former Everton manager Moyes has watched the Red Devils suffer 10 defeats in 31 league matches since he replaced Sir Alex Ferguson, who retired last summer after almost 27 years in charge.
The poor cunt is getting it from all angles… If this banner goes ahead tomorrow the club will be a laughing stock- 20 years success and they can’t go 7 months without making a cunt of themselves due to a few poor results… the arrogance of the bastards.
The manner in which the fans have shit the pot is adding to the enjoyment this you have to say. They’re already pointing to their 20 titles, took Liverpool at least a decade in the wilderness to start going on about 4/5.
Real Manchester United supporters continue to support David Moyes. Those who want him out are merely glory hunters with no real affinity to the club and will most likely be supporting Chelsea or Manchester City next season.
Were they not recently been hailed as the best fans in the world (even better than the Eire fans) for the stoicism they had shown over the last 7 months?
They got lucky on the Hull game being postponed but Newcastle could do a double on them in between the Bayern games. Can 3 bad results in row there add further to the pressure?