Marginalization of (White)/(Straight) Men/ post photos of great sets of tits

Ta @Sidney

Basically a list of nutters who the Internet has given voice to, and in prior generations would be ignored or perhaps institutionalized.

Conveniently leaving out the left wing nutters of course, who appeal to a much broader spectrum of the population. In a recent study by UL’s Rory Costello, 31% of Irish voters identified as radical left wing authoritarian, supporting a more powerful government that controls people’s lives and a centralized economy where innovators and business leaders are replaced by morons. Unsurprisingly 57% are Sinn Fein voters who demand free everything without having to work for anything, admire Maduro’s Venezuela, and long for the day when everyone in Ireland is rummaging through trash cans for food.

But the threat to personal and economic freedom is from the alt-right who likely have a few hundred members in Ireland.

I asked Sid a question related to his post and he obviously went to a lot of trouble to reply to me. the post i asked about was about right wing nutjobs. There was no reason for him to include any loony left wing nutters.

No need to get defensive.

If you want to see nutters who demand everything for nothing, have a look at the so called “Yellow Vest” protests in Ireland and elsewhere.

The far right’s fingerprints are all over them and it is overwhelmingly becoming a far right movement. Scan the comments section off the Faceboook page of the “Irish Yellow Vests” and you’ll see loads of comments that could easily have come from your keyboard.

By the way, wanting a proper welfare state with a proper national health service, large scale building of public housing, good free education, good public transport etc. is not authoritarian, it’s the exact opposite. It’s common sense. That’s how the best societies are run.

Bots and sock puppets are not “nutters”, by the way. They are part of mass scale disinformation war by Russia and the international far right to amplify the messages of far right politics. They are very effective.

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I chanced upon this Twittter post a short time ago. I think a quick scan of the accounts which reply to it shows a good example of far right strategy in action. There are 47 replies and about 90% express a hardcore anti-feminist, anti-“political correctness” or pro-“masculinity” message, using familiar far-right cliches such as “cultural Marxism” or familiar alt-right “lulz” techniques. Many, if not the majority of the accounts which post on the thread bear the classic hallmarks of bots or sock puppet accounts. This type of thing is becoming the norm on Irish Twitter and it’s about amplifying your message to make it seem much more common than it actually is in real life - to drown out your “opposition” out with sheer weight of numbers, no matter what those numbers are actually made up of, ie. troll bots and sock puppets.

I dont go on twitter. Its utter fucking shit. That goes a long way to not being influenced by people.

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Media in general vastly over-amplify it’s actual relevance

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Not going on Twitter is certainly a good way to maintain good mental health. However an ever-increasing proportion of political influencing is taking place on it, and other social media and exclusively online platforms. Those who spend a lot of time on social media usually have extremely poor concentration spans and gravitate towards sensationalist material. The far right are extremely good at distilling their “message” into short, sensationalist, bite sized morsels which tend to make people sit up and take notice - and lies, which they pile on by the barrelful, by their nature tend to be short, sharp and memorable. Non-extremist politics, particularly of the centre-left variety, is extremely bad at distilling its message into short and sharp soundbytes.

Confusion is the key to wearing down people’s worldview into a deeply cynical one. A deeply cynical worldview tends to make people more fearful. The Russians are the masters. What they do in the west now is what they’ve been doing at home for years. I think the George Osborne comparison in this video is poorly taken, but many other much more pertinent actors and events have emerged in the west since this video was made at the end of 2014 to prove the overall point right.

Its vapid shit. Total polarisation now, especially if you follow US politics. Our side is always right, the opposite always evil. Hilarious when one viewpoint thinks their argument is pure and have no self awareness they are exhibiting the same behavior they give out about. But you don’t have to go as far as twitter to see that.

Shouldn’t we be more concerned with the marginalisation of homosexuals, Pakistanis and those who are gay and Pakistani? Here’s some casual homophobia and racism from the moral policeman

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If you think it’s bad now, wait for 2020. It’s very likely the Democratic nominee will either be a member of Democratic Socialists of America or at least be in alignment with their goals. Make no mistake, the goals of the DSA are very clear, as outlined in the following Vox article: abolition of Capitalism, abolition of the police force, abolition of the prison system, nationalizing all industry, elimination of the paternal figure in the family, elimination of genders, let kids rather than teachers runs schools, etc.

This is the vision of AOC and her contemporaries, and exposes the lie that they want to turn the US into Norway (which has none of the above) rather than Venezuela. It sounds so simple doesn’t it, let the janitors run corporations, let Black Lives Matter do community policing, send the most violent criminals to therapy sessions, let the kids run schools, and let a former barmaid run the whole show. What could possibly go wrong?

Only 25,000 dues-paying members :rofl:, and they don’t universally agree on any of the “horrific” vistas you theorise about there, hardly constitutes a mortal threat :rollseyes:

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Have you been at the whiskey again?

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Oooooooft!

I would imagine anybody running on that platform would absolutely clean up in the US.