neilld
May 22, 2022, 5:07pm
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Davy has probably put in for the 3
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Brendan Cummins or Derek Lyng are good candidates for a few jobs
Are there any stooks out there that would chance Eddie Brennan for a job again?
Easyyyyyyyyy Tipp were terrible
Surprisingly so
Doesnât matter as our boys wonât travel much farther
But then again who knows
Indulging him for years part of problem surely. Lovely hurler in the flesh when in space but lazy and windy imo
Iâve occasionally wondered what pairing has the biggest potential to develop as a hurling rivalry that has genuine crossover appeal to the floating sporting public, in a similar way to how in football, Dublin v Mayo developed into the box office rivalry to beat all box office rivalries, despite them not being historic rivals.
In hurling I think the pairing that might have the biggest potential for mass appeal is Cork v Wexford.
Traditional All-Ireland final rivalries between the big GAA counties, ie. Dublin v Kerry in football, Cork v Kilkenny or Tipp v Kilkenny in hurling, do not particularly enthuse the wider football and hurling public. There may be occasional exceptions like Dublin v Kerry 2011 and Tipp v Kilkenny 2010, but they are the exceptions.
A true box office rivalry must have the following:
It must have a traditionally hegemonic team playing against a traditionally success starved team. This creates the narrative and the crossover appeal. One team has to be the âvillainâ.
It must be between teams from different provinces.
It must be between teams with large support bases.
It helps if it is an urban v rural clash.
Dublin v Mayo had all that. It is impossible for a GAA rivalry to get more box office. Kerry v Tyrone had much but not all of those elements though that was a terrific rivalry.
Cork v Waterford of the 2000s had most of that but it was an all-Munster affair so didnât have the (almost) nationwide appeal.
Cork is the nearest hurling has to a Dublin. Wexford hurling is similar to Mayo football in the passions it arouses. It has genuine cultural cachet throughout Ireland. Wexford have always been the neutralsâ choice.
Cork v Wexford is a lesser spotted rivalry, but the most famous hurling match of them all was Cork v Wexford 1956, while 1993 and 2003 still stick in the memory as great tussles. There is something of an exotic feeling about Cork v Wexford, a touch of the Mediterranean.
The problem with a Cork v Wexford rivalry might be that Cork are traditionally too likeable so donât fit the âvillainâ role. You need the traditionally hegemonic team to have or be perceived to have Phil Taylor levels of cuntishness. Though perhaps some would claim the 2000s Cork team had that.
Anyway, Cork v Wexford and Cork v Waterford are both very appetising potential Allianz League final pairings.
Bring on that Cork v Wexford All-Ireland final.
Both teams coming into form at the right time.
Mushrooms v Strawberries.
he is a man that could show up somewhere alrite
His odds on being the next Waterford manager have just shortened dramatically.
Lyng is the cat to get in my view
any internal candidates in Waterford cheasty ?
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No idea to be honest. I never thought they were as good as they were being hyped up to be but I thought they were better than they turned out to be. Back to the drawing board as the man said.
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ChairmanDan:
Derek
surely not unless you mean Lyng
2024âŚâŚ ( ref Cummins )
Surprised at you asking silly questions.
balbec
May 22, 2022, 5:33pm
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Itâs a sickener for ye. We know all about it.
balbec
May 22, 2022, 5:34pm
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Derek âcontendersâ McGrath.
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2003 - 2008 werenât pretty either.
The wheel will keep on turning all the same.
Bonnar & Co were poor on the line but the depth of quality just isnât there at the moment.
Lean times ahead but these cycles come & go.
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What way does the relegation process from the Liam McCarthy Cup play out with bottom of the tables Laois and Tipperary?
Donât know buddy, I was only pretending to be a harmless hurling man from Waterford to get access to the forum again.
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