Munster Rugby - We DID start the fire (Part 1)

Because of your absolutely clueless observations on the game so I hope for your sake you donā€™t watch much. Kev youve a personal agenda against Zebo. He was brillaint when he came on. You just need to get over it. He should have started at 15. Thereā€™s the good and bad with him but heā€™s a far superior 15 to Conway or wotton or Earls. Thatā€™s why every top club in Europe was after him. Heā€™s brilliant.

Munster are in massive trouble next season. Theyā€™ll struggle to get out of the pool without Zebo and Ryan. The biggest worry is Murray leaving after the 2019 World Cup which I think is likely. Zebo Munsters joint leading try scorer in Europe on Sunday and also leading try scorer in knockout games. Yet kev thinks heā€™s no loss. Even do Felix jones back coach was doing anything possibly to convince him to stay and munster branch for looking for private investment like mcilroy and whoever Leinster have to top up his contract.

The damian mcKenzie conundrum

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They got through without Ryan ffs.

Losing players is part and parcel of sport. You have to adjust.

Can you inform us how many times youā€™ve seen teddy Thomas play in 2018 please kev.

And we are adding Tadgh Beirne

Yes but munster canā€™t afford to replace him with as good a replacement. Kleyn is in major problem with his kneck, billy Holland isnā€™t up to it. Itā€™s savage lack of foresight from the irfu letting Munsters best players leave because they make so much from them being competitive in Europe. Likewise ulster are now fucked too.

Heā€™s probably a better six.

Thatā€™s Ryan & Zebo gone, two of their regular starters. Two home grown players.

Canā€™t ever see Murray leaving. The IRFU will throw crazy money at him.

Munster will always be competitive because there are so few decent teams they have to face. The Magners league is farcical. Pub teams like Dragons, the Italians etc. In Europe most of the English & French teams are knackered from their own domestic league.

A bog standard Munster team were 6 points away from making the final. Itā€™s not that much of an achievement to get to the last 4 or even the final.

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If you fit the irfu criteria of having a good injury record Leinster are blessed the irfu held onto rob Kearney and Cian Healy.

A lot of lads like Murray and o Mahony realise without Ryan and Zebo they wonā€™t win silverware. Murrayā€™s three six nations and probably wonā€™t be first choice in five seasons time. Heā€™ll leave after the World Cup.

Munster got this far without him.

The IRFU and the provinces canā€™t keep everyone and rely on some players being willing to take a discount to stay.

Theyā€™ve managed to hold onto every Leinster player. With former Leinster manager having a massive hand on who gets national contracts.

What you mean like Sexton years ago, Moore, Madigan, Conway, Cooney, Murphy and countless development/academy players?

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None of them would start for Leinster or Ireland.

Is there a limit on the number of foreign players you can pick at any one time? Leinster couldnā€™t pick Lowe on Saturday because they have Fardy & Gibson Park.

For Munster the likes of Marshall, Kleyn, Stander (he ainā€™t Irish), Cloete, Bleyendaal and Taute are all arguably first choice in their position. Throw in all their Leinster and Ulster rejects and thereā€™s barely a handful of Munster born and bred starters for them.

Producing fuck all. The club game is in tatters too.

Dan Leavy captained St Michaelā€™s to win the Senior Cup in 2012.

Munster have six lads good enough for the Irish 23. Zebo, Earls, Murray, stander, o Mahony and Ryan. 33 percent of those have let go by the irfu. Earls was basically gone too only for a last minute change of heart.

And letā€™s not forget historical bias towards Munster players in the 70s.

Ryan left it too late to influence his contract talks. There was no chance after a couple of years of injury and marginal international impact that he was a shoo-in for a national contract. Munster had every chance of doing their own deal but couldnā€™t get it done. Look inwards for that one.