Munster Rugby

Huge criticism that there are too many former players involved who won’t make the ruthless decisions needed

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In what world are Flannery and Jones gonna leave the springboks ahead of the RWC and on the verge of creating history FFS :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Munster leadership don’t have the best track record in getting these decisions right though, so maybe they got it wrong again.

Is that in the officials roles or the coaching roles? I do think there is something to maintaining the culture and identity by promoting homegrown coaches.

Good point but they’re only assistant coaches, it’s not beyond all possibility given they could get increased responsibility and more likely better pay. Or maybe they agree to join up from a year out.

Don’t they?

Erasmus and Van Gran were two good appointments who didn’t work out for wildly different reasons.

We had Erasmus and Nienabar at one point in the not so distant past

Rowntree was a good appointment who won a league

Was van graan ever a good fit? I get he’s doing great at bath but all he seemed to want to do at Munster was sign big south African second row who could run over people.

V good coach but didn’t have the players
same as now

He’s obviously doing really well, but being able to assemble a group of players you want to play the way you want is different to being able to figure out how to play to to get the best out of the group of players you have. I’m not sure he was the man to do the latter.

Maybe he did get the best out of the group he had? He lost two away European semi finals and got knocked out by Toulouse two seasons in a row (one one pens?)

Id fairly take that level of “failure” now

The former players - Killian Keane and Mick O’Driscoll iirc are the key off field decision makers in the Munster hierarchy.

Where did you hear that?

Keane used to be a serious high flyer with Goldman Sachs haven’t heard of him in years

Driscoll has some health care business

Maybe they are involved but it’s part time

They are part of the “Professional Game Committee” who select the head coach.

The PGC, chaired by long-time Munster Board member John Hartery CEO and comprising independent nominees and former players Billy Holland, Killian Keane, John Kelly, Mick O’Driscoll, and Munster Branch Finance Committee chairperson Tom Kinirons also had Rowntree as a non-voting member alongside Costello and chief executive Ian Flanagan but there will be no rush to fill the recently vacated chair as far as the Head of Rugby Operations is concerned

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Yeah thats a kind of non exec type role makes sense get Keane on it anyway as a door opener and an experienced businessman

Apparently Keane, Holland and O’Driscoll have now resigned from this committee over the Randle hire according to the Indo :smile:

Oh ffs :rofl::rofl::rofl:

My guess is that this is all going to end very badly with Munster having to replace McMillan.

I suppose it’s hardly unexpected that he might bring in some of his former assistants, this guy has been the Chiefs’ attack coach for a while now.

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Surely humphries saw this coming.

If this ends in the way i think surely he should be gone

Irfu came out and said they had no input into appointment of assistant coaches

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