What’s the difference between a ‘comfortable win’ and a ‘win’? Do you get another medal for the win being comfortable?
2019 doesn’t count because they were a mess
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And 2020 doesn’t count because it was the wrong time of year
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This is a big problem again, Sunday is their all Ireland final, Limerick won’t give a fuck
Proposal for two referees after Cork hurlers ‘were done twice’
A Cork club delegate has suggested the county bring a motion to Congress for two referees in hurling after Cork “were done twice” during the Munster SHC.
At Tuesday’s Cork county board meeting, one delegate said two referees should be added to the list of experimental rules that are to be trialed during college games in the autumn.
“I felt that Cork definitely have been done twice throughout the championship. And we had an issue with Cork and Kerry the other day [in football]. Maybe if there was a motion put forward that they’d have two referees on the field and trial it, since they’re trialing new rules in college games,” the delegate told the meeting.
The Cork top-table made clear that changes to playing rules were off the Congress agenda until 2025. At this point in the meeting, Cork GAA CEO Kevin O’Donovan told delegates that there should be nobody in the county looking for excuses over Cork’s earliest hurling championship exit since 2001. To adopt that attitude would “destroy us”, he added.
“Now might be a good time to just make this point and having spoken to a number of Cork hurlers since their exit from the championship and having had conversations with management, there is nobody there looking for excuses. And if we are going to consider ourselves unlucky to not be in the All-Ireland hurling championship, in my view it is the road to ruin.
“Decisions come, decisions go. Balls hit the post. Referees make good decisions, bad decisions. We are there as supporters. We want every decision to go our way. We’ll say we were unlucky, but you have my word that the Cork camp do not believe that because if they did, it is the road to ruin for this county if our hurlers are going to use excuses of referees or pitches or dates or fixtures.
“Our team are very clear; they are already planning for next year. And there is nobody in Cork looking for excuses for our exit from any championship because I think it would destroy us if that’s our attitude. I just want to be very clear on that.”
Also at Tuesday’s meeting, two letters were read out from East Cork GAA chairperson Avril Geary and Youghal secretary Sean Ó Súilleabhain expressing frustration with the pay-per-view GAAGO and the association’s cashless ticketing policy.
The Youghal letter also hit out at the decision by Croke Park to prevent charity logos on GAA shirts and the seven-day eligibility rule governing U20 players who are also part of their county’s senior set-up.
“Many of the older generation cannot watch the games as many do not have a mobile device, not to mind broadband in rural areas,” read Avril Geary’s letter on behalf of the East Cork division.
“It is terrible that an elderly person who doesn’t have a smartphone or computer cannot buy a ticket to club or inter-county games. This should be corrected, and credit card facilities should be provided, even if it was one turnstile,” noted Ó Súilleabhain.
With regard to GAAGO, Kevin O’Donovan said accessibility needs to improve.
“Technology needs to improve, and it needs a button on your smart tv. It is a Wi-Fi issue in some areas, so that’s a local thing, that’s not a GAA issue.
“The selection of key matches which promote our games almost need to be ring fenced and guaranteed free to air.”
Credit cards will be accepted at Cork county championship games in Páirc Uí Rinn and Páirc Uí Chaoimh later this year.
I think you’ll find out Sunday how good a general Brian Lohan is.
My hunch is Limerick will drop very deep and isolate Flanagan and gillane. Tom Morrissey will be detailed to pick up Tony Kelly if he comes outside the full forward line.
If Clare do what they’ve been doing and go man v man on gillane and Flanagan Limerick will win handy. Those players are too intelligent and too good at occupying space for any two backs to be able to mark them. The ball in doesn’t even have to be that good because there’ll be so much space around them.
For me Clare should go 3 v 2 on the two lads. WOD and mike Casey aren’t the best ball players. Clare have a quicker team too so work rate can and being selective on who you close down can work now against Limerick.
Hannon isn’t hurling as well as he could be and Barry nash is markable as shown by teams in the last few games.
If Clare go man v man Limerick will use Quaid as their playmaker to create an over lap in the backs and just fire it into gillane and Flanagan.
I think that’s how Clare beat Limerick.
On last year I think it was a 3 week break to the Munster final? Either way Limerick were qualified with a game to spare and rested a few v Clare In Ennis.
This year Clare have 3 weeks and Limerick have 2 weeks but were obviously flat out v cork. That could have an impact in the final ten minutes of the game.
Any mention of the doing the cunts game the Offaly forwards?
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They want a second referee on the field so they can get even more frees in a game.
The softest cunts in sport.
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And they breeding their U20s to act like tramps. No joined up thinking at all in Cork.
Winning a Munster would be a great fillip for Lohan at this stage. There’s a danger he slips into the same category as Dalo (2004-2006). A good manager who did an impressive job reaching a couple of All-Ireland semi-finals but couldn’t quite deliver silverware. Where they differ is that Lohan has integrated far more players into the set-up and freshened things up whereas Dalo very much stuck with the tried and trusted and extracted every last ounce from the veterans. Both sets of veterans had won at least one Liam McCarthy almost a decade before but it would be very fitting for the likes of Tony Kelly, John Conlon, David McInerney, Peter Duggan and Shane O’ Donnell to finally capture a Munster medal. Beaten narrowly in 3 finals in the previous 6 seasons. This is their 4th Munster Final since 2017.
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I do think Clare are sort of patched up a little. They are probably short 3 or 4 players truth be told to win an all Ireland but when you’ve got Tony Kelly you’ve always got a chance.
Lohan took the job at a very low ebb and every fair minded Clare supporter realises that if he hadn’t taken the job when he did we would very much be in the doldrums and probably consistently fifth in Munster right now with Davy back as manager and the same old county board. It was a thankless job and no real path to glory given the ineptitude he was surrounded with at board level and the behemoth Limerick were becoming who have dominated since. He kept his council but faced down the stooks a who put every road block they could in front of him and built a team in his image.
The upsurge in Clare underage has a lot to do with him and Club Clare which he put in place along with the work of a number of people he had gotten involved in both coaching and behind the scenes.
There is pressure on Clare to perform and win on Sunday, not really from within the county or the fans but from the management and group of players. We as supporters would love some silverware and would see it as a fitting reward for this group who have given us some great days under Lohan. I think if it was Tipp in the final there would be far more expectation and pressure while Limerick and their record over the last few years means it is more hope than expectation.
Realistically, probably half of the 20 who will see game time Sunday will probably never get as good a chance than this and in all probability may not be still involved or getting gametime come the far side of 2025. A massive performance will be needed and I think a lot of things are in place for them to give it. Lohan as a player was part of a side which two pastings in Munster finals before finally delivering - now is the time for this group to deliver - please god they do.
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No chance
2 weeks is plenty of preparation time if you are a serious athlete with S and C specialists available.
This would be a very weak excuse if Clare finish stronger than limerick.
Pressure is on for John Kiely and team. They owe us this cup also as this is where our expectations are set at after recent years.
They have a few. They also have the ref lined up as a scapegoat.
Odd comparison. I know commentators never realise it but Fitz plays wing forward for us and not midfield. And he doesn’t in anyway play the role WOD does.
Much more of a loose ball merchant but in fairness to him and unlike O’Donoghue he can actually hit the ball.
Yeah it is a bizarre comparison. Aside from their height they are polar opposites in terms of role and skill.
Malone is the only comparable player with WOD on the limerick team. You could compare Fitz as a poor man’s version of Hegarty maybe.
Fitz has all the ability in the world and confidence to go with it but his temperament and attitude get in his way at times. When in song he is very effective, when he isn’t then he is a liability.
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I wouldn’t like to be a guard around town Sunday.
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Confirmation, if we really needed it, that you’re 100% a Willumite (ie. not from Limerick)