http://www.esri.ie/UserFiles/publications/20081002175230/RS004_Lunn.pdf
That’s a bit too much to bother with on a Monday afternoon NCC.
You would need a day off to trawl through all that shite.
[quote=“manusboyle”]That’s a bit too much to bother with on a Monday afternoon NCC.
You would need a day off to trawl through all that shite.[/quote]
yeah - thats why in the thread title i summarised the gist of the report
Statistics lies and damn statistics. Anyone in Portlaoise yesterday will tell you GAA is as popular as ever.
Although I just reread his post he refers to something called GGA, I have no idea what that is.
[quote=“myboyblue”]Statistics lies and damn statistics. Anyone in Portlaoise yesterday will tell you GAA is as popular as ever.
Although I just reread his post he refers to something called GGA, I have no idea what that is.[/quote]
the grab all association
Ah, Rovers it is then.
Very helpful of you.
read the report
Notes:
(1) Swimming includes Aqua-aerobics; Golf includes Pitch and Putt; Soccer includes Five-a-side; Exercise includes aerobics, keep-fit routines and going to the gym; Cycling excludes cycling for transport; Athletics includes jogging and cross-country; Walking is excluded; Dancing was not included in the QNHS and SSPE surveys.
(2) Reference periods vary between surveys. For the SSPE and QNHS, respondents were asked about any sport played in the previous 12 months. For the ISM, the reference period was the previous 7 days, leading to lower participation rates. (Since the ISM interviews were conducted evenly throughout the year, this 7-day period does not introduce seasonal bias in the activities recorded.)
(3) Lower participation rates for the QNHS arise because the figures refer only to peoples main sporting activity. The other two surveys allowed individuals to be counted in the participation rate for more than one sport.
(4) The SSPE sample is adults aged 18-plus, QNHS adults 15-plus and ISM adults 16-plus.
There’s a bit of a flaw in that survey in my opinion. Is it meant to be about sport for competition or exercise for health (which commonly takes the form of sport). Aqua-aerobics, exercise and cycling for transport are not what I’d class as sport. Fair enough they’re good for your health but if that’s the case why is golf included in the same survey seeing as there’s fuck all exercise in that. A lot of the people who swim and jog and go to the gym could be going there as a supplement to other sports. I don’t think there’s that many proper swimmers in the country. It doesn’t cover how frequently they particpate or to what level either. I might puck around the odd time but I wouldn’t say I play hurling anymore. However, someone who goes fore odd jog would probably tick that off seeing as jogging was mentioned. Pucking around is as close to full hurling as jogging is to running.
That’s not to say the general gist of it as NCC summed up isn’t right, just that we can’treally be sure from that study.
You said you’d sumarised it for us, but all you did was mislead us.
Also, I dont put any faith in statistics produced in Ireland.
who cares
we’ve our stadium, our provincial grounds and our clubs have roof’s on their dressing rooms
this report is like watching the youngest child leaving the nest,
“our lot are done for.”
NCC, did you read it? It doesnt say anywhere that the GAA is falling in popularity. It does say that traditional team sports (rugby soccer and GAA) are overfunded, especially GAA in compariosn with participation rates for other sports (like jogging, golf and swimming)
Also, all the reports from which they take their stayistics from are old.
I know there is probably no point in trying to have a discussion with you on this as you’ll just re hash the same old cliche phrases you use, but this report was based on individual participation sports and the funding for that as opposed to traditional team sports.
The one thing I was suprised at, was that the level of soccer participation from 1984 to 2000 (check the dates again, cant remember exactly) only rose by the same number as hurling. Gaelic football dropped, but that isnt a huge suprise as the population rises, but I really thought soccer would have boomed in the late 80’s early 90’s and especailly towards the late 90’s as more 5 a side pitches emerged, and seeing as they class some old git playing 5 a side once a week as a participating soccer player. And I’m not saying that as a dig or a wind up, I genuinely would have thought soccer would have been the leading sport in gorwth relative to the population in the 80’s/90’s.
To be honest, the report seems to be done by some loser who swims or goes jogging and hates team sports because he was shite at them when younger and was has a grudge since. What fooking funding do you need to go jogging? fair enough, I also think swimming is very underfunded here, but FFS, have a bit of cop on.
[quote=“Mairegangaire”]who cares
we’ve our stadium, our provincial grounds and our clubs have roof’s on their dressing rooms
this report is like watching the youngest child leaving the nest,
“our lot are done for.”[/quote]
[quote=“Gman”]NCC, did you read it? It doesnt say anywhere that the GAA is falling in popularity. It does say that traditional team sports (rugby soccer and GAA) are overfunded, especially GAA in compariosn with participation rates for other sports (like jogging, golf and swimming)
Also, all the reports from which they take their stayistics from are old.
I know there is probably no point in trying to have a discussion with you on this as you’ll just re hash the same old cliche phrases you use, but this report was based on individual participation sports and the funding for that as opposed to traditional team sports.
The one thing I was suprised at, was that the level of soccer participation from 1984 to 2000 (check the dates again, cant remember exactly) only rose by the same number as hurling. Gaelic football dropped, but that isnt a huge suprise as the population rises, but I really thought soccer would have boomed in the late 80’s early 90’s and especailly towards the late 90’s as more 5 a side pitches emerged, and seeing as they class some old git playing 5 a side once a week as a participating soccer player. And I’m not saying that as a dig or a wind up, I genuinely would have thought soccer would have been the leading sport in gorwth relative to the population in the 80’s/90’s.
To be honest, the report seems to be done by some loser who swims or goes jogging and hates team sports because he was shite at them when younger and was has a grudge since. What fooking funding do you need to go jogging? fair enough, I also think swimming is very underfunded here, but FFS, have a bit of cop on.[/quote]
dont always be on the defensive
it clearly states that the disparity between the gga & all other sports cannot be justified - it also says that the main team sports get too much but the striking fact is that it clearly states that the disparity between the gga & all other sports cannot be justified. GGA gets 33% of grants yet only around 3% of people play it. Hurling is on the chart for partcipation rates in 03 yet falls out completkly in 07.
what needs to be pointed out is that a lot of other sports cant grow as the gga grabs all the grants & the facilities arent there - so not only are the gga falling in popularity they are holding back more modern sports
overall shocking stuff for the gga
[quote=“Mairegangaire”]who cares
we’ve our stadium, our provincial grounds and our clubs have roof’s on their dressing rooms
this report is like watching the youngest child leaving the nest,
“our lot are done for.”[/quote]
thats what im saying- no need for the grab all association to get more particulary as the esri implies the gga is more of a social than sporting outlet
the summary clearly states that especially the gga gets too much funding despite it not being the most popular,falling in popularity & has a high level of dropouts & this goes against the aim of the policy
You’re funny ncc, your indignance puts a smile on my face.
So to summarise, you’re bitching because the GAA apply for grants to better themselves?
Oi NCC…take that report and shove it up your crack.
no its not
its a weak below the belt attempt
thats about the height of it
pity, I had high hopes for you cranky
[quote=“myboyblue”]You’re funny ncc, your indignance puts a smile on my face.
So to summarise, you’re bitching because the GAA apply for grants to better themselves?[/quote]
grab all association by name grab all association by nature - this report clearly states that - the FAI are it it to but not to the same extent by any strecth of the imagination