Thanks for proving my point
[QUOTE=“Sidney, post: 1126118, member: 183”]I see Daily Heil columnist Jeremy Hopkiss has called for the British Navy to go into the Mediterranean and smash the shit out of any more boats full of illegal aliens that attempt to enter our waters, and that the corpses of any victims should be minced up and used as a cost effective substitute for horse meat in beef burgers served in homeless shelters.
I really like Hopkiss - he calls it as it is, is a bit of a rebel, isn’t afraid to be different or controversial, exposes groupthink, won’t cow to the PC agenda and calls out those fucking nig-nogs for the cockroaches they are. We need more like him.[/QUOTE]
A no boat left unturned policy?
Can we work out a ratio on here of what a life is worth depending on country of origin in regards to column inches in the western media.
You need about 1,000 North Africans dead before we take any notice. But it can’t be an ongoing thing like Syria or ISIS which we are bored of.
Israel wouldn’t fall under this category obviously.
[QUOTE=“flattythehurdler, post: 1126153, member: 1170”]I have to sadly agree that this looks very true at present.
The only solution at present would appear to be patrols very close to the Libyan shores, with boats turned around, put back ashore and then burned once the people are safely off.
There would need to be some kind of aid going hand in hand with this.[/QUOTE]
The only solution? What about, I don’t know, letting them in and letting them work?
How many would you let in mate?
http://www.thejournal.ie/migrants-response-mediterranean-2058156-Apr2015/
[SIZE=6]‘We’re looking at the worst massacre ever seen in the Mediterranean’[/SIZE]
Not belittling this incident but that statement is patently untrue, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lepanto
How many land here? Few enough really.
170,000 in Italy alone so far this year. How many more would you let in?
He would only let in the 4 year old cross dressers
He’s fucked now, if he says all of them he’ll be ridiculed for the ridiculous answer that it is and if he puts a number on it I’ll ask him what about the rest of them and ridicule him for his hypocrisy.
He’s fucked now, if he says all of them he’ll be ridiculed for the ridiculous answer that it is and if he puts a number on it I’ll ask him what about the rest of them and ridicule him for his hypocrisy.[/QUOTE]
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That’s grand. In a population of over 500 million in the EU I think we can accommodate them.
So where should we draw the line? How many would you let in?
Why have we to draw a line? What’s your obsession with a quota? Do you think we have any responsibility towards regugees?
The only problem is the current EU rules saying that refugees have to be dealt with at point of entry, so italy greece and Spain carry the can. If they were shared equally throughout the EU the impact wouldn’t be noticeable. These are mostly genuine refugees after all.
While I’m at it, in Ireland we get a tiny proportion of asylum seekers and fuck them into the direct provision system to rot for 10 years, it’s a fucking disgrace.
[QUOTE=“glasagusban, post: 1126238, member: 1533”]Why have we to draw a line? What’s your obsession with a quota? Do you think we have any responsibility towards regugees?
The only problem is the current EU rules saying that refugees have to be dealt with at point of entry, so italy greece and Spain carry the can. If they were shared equally throughout the EU the impact wouldn’t be noticeable. These are mostly genuine refugees after all.
While I’m at it, in Ireland we get a tiny proportion of asylum seekers and fuck them into the direct provision system to rot for 10 years, it’s a fucking disgrace.[/QUOTE]
Stop trying to change focus and answer the mans question.
[QUOTE=“glasagusban, post: 1126238, member: 1533”]Why have we to draw a line? What’s your obsession with a quota? Do you think we have any responsibility towards regugees?
The only problem is the current EU rules saying that refugees have to be dealt with at point of entry, so italy greece and Spain carry the can. If they were shared equally throughout the EU the impact wouldn’t be noticeable. These are mostly genuine refugees after all.
While I’m at it, in Ireland we get a tiny proportion of asylum seekers and fuck them into the direct provision system to rot for 10 years, it’s a fucking disgrace.[/QUOTE]
Because the logical conclusion of your policy of letting whoever wants to in, means that everyone will want to get in. If you had a choice between Libya or Italy of course you’d pick Italy. There are at best guess 1.1 billion people living in Africa. Lets say conservatively 1/50th of them could probably claim legitimately a need for assylum. That’s 22 million people. Not including Asia/South America etc.
In an ideal scenario where the world was sunshine and lollipops we’d let them in, however any country who has let in a large amount of immigrants in recent times, like say France is seriously suffering the affects.
You don’t want the truth because deep down in places you don’t talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post. Either way, I don’t give a damn what you think you are entitled to.
[QUOTE=“Julio Geordio, post: 1126249, member: 332”]Because the logical conclusion of your policy of letting whoever wants to in, means that everyone will want to get in. If you had a choice between Libya or Italy of course you’d pick Italy. There are at best guess 1.1 billion people living in Africa. Lets say conservatively 1/50th of them could probably claim legitimately a need for assylum. That’s 22 million people. Not including Asia/South America etc.
In an ideal scenario where the world was sunshine and lollipops we’d let them in, however any country who has let in a large amount of immigrants in recent times, like say France is seriously suffering the affects.
You don’t want the truth because deep down in places you don’t talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post. Either way, I don’t give a damn what you think you are entitled to.[/QUOTE]
There isn’t a prospect of millions arriving, your argument is specious. The situation we are confronted with is, in the context of the population of the EU, a handful arriving that we can easily accommodate, so we should.
So you think that allowing them all in, wouldn’t encourage in anyway more people to do it?
No I dont. It’s already a better option for them whether the doors are open or not. And anyway, by what degree do you think it will change the ability of people to make it across? Of course conplementary mensures should be used such as assisting North African States to prevent people trafficking, which is heinous in itself.
170,000 over 4 months is not a handful.
its hard not to admire your naive but for the right reasons pro stance on every underdog and poor downtrodden bastard on this planet. id say you are a really nice lad with a good heart. youd make a great aid worker.