[QUOTE=“HBV*, post: 1126257, member: 234”]170,000 over 4 months is not a handful.
its hard not to admire your naive but for the right reasons pro stance on every underdog and poor downtrodden bastard on this planet. id say you are a really nice lad with a good heart. youd make a great aid worker.[/QUOTE]
I’d say him and Trevor Hogan would get on famously. Both about as useful as a eunuch in a brothel.
[QUOTE=“HBV*, post: 1126257, member: 234”]170,000 over 4 months is not a handful.
its hard not to admire your naive but for the right reasons pro stance on every underdog and poor downtrodden bastard on this planet. id say you are a really nice lad with a good heart. youd make a great aid worker.[/QUOTE]
Thanks pal.
See above re complementary measures that should help address the numbers arriving, but once they’re here they’re here and we may as well face up to that.
By increasing the reward at the far end it hugely incentivises them to try.
I really hope this chap isn’t old enough to vote
That doesn’t answer my question. How many more will have the ability to get across?
[QUOTE=“HBV*, post: 1126257, member: 234”]170,000 over 4 months is not a handful.
its hard not to admire your naive but for the right reasons pro stance on every underdog and poor downtrodden bastard on this planet. id say you are a really nice lad with a good heart. youd make a great aid worker.[/QUOTE]
I was actually off on that number, that figure is actually the total number that arrived in Italy in 2014. 626,000 applied for assylum in the EU in 2014.
Last week alone an estimated 10,000 landed in Italy and they are the ones that have sought assylum rather than going to ground. If that rate continued you’d be looking at upwards of 500,000 getting into Italy alone this year.
About 10,000 a week at current rates mate.
What would that look like on a graph mate?
[QUOTE=“Julio Geordio, post: 1126265, member: 332”]I was actually off on that number, that figure is actually the total number that arrived in Italy in 2014. 626,000 applied for assylum in the EU in 2014.
Last week alone an estimated 10,000 landed in Italy and they are the ones that have sought assylum rather than going to ground. If that rate continued you’d be looking at upwards of 500,000 getting into Italy alone this year.[/QUOTE]
So what would you do?
[QUOTE=“Julio Geordio, post: 1126265, member: 332”]I was actually off on that number, that figure is actually the total number that arrived in Italy in 2014. 626,000 applied for assylum in the EU in 2014.
Last week alone an estimated 10,000 landed in Italy and they are the ones that have sought assylum rather than going to ground. If that rate continued you’d be looking at upwards of 500,000 getting into Italy alone this year.[/QUOTE]
how much does it cost italy annually to deal with this problem and the same for the eu, do you know?
whatever it is that figure should be dedicated by the eu annually for 10 years to fund projects in the migrant countries where really good people like @glasagusban give their time to educate the people on the risks involved and basically tell them they would be better off where they are as its a lot better than the likes of 10 years in mosney.
Something along the lines of the Australian model of turning the boats back. Not ideal in any way, but would stem the tide.
Why not just shoot them with drones, or big guns from along the coastline, it’d be cheaper?
I somehow doubt it will, mate. And what if the Libyans won’t accept them back, give that many, perhaps most, aren’t even Libyan?
:rolleyes: Drones are very expensive mate.
I’m merely advocating the removal of the reward which motivates them to take the risk.
You seem happy enough for them to risk their lives at sea you heartless bastard.
Build a big fence. Europe for Europeans.
Australia pay other countries to take them off their hands. Needless to say the numbers attempting the journey has plummeted.
It’s horrendous, but we as a race do not seem to be able to get along very well with each other. The effects continue for generations; see France, Belgium, UK etc for examples.
[QUOTE=“Julio Geordio, post: 1126277, member: 332”]:rolleyes: Drones are very expensive mate.
I’m merely advocating the removal of the reward which motivates them to take the risk.
You seem happy enough for them to risk their lives at sea you heartless bastard.[/QUOTE]
You can’t do that though. We can’t even stop drug smuggling boats, what makes you think we can stop people smuggling ones? The risk and rewards remains the same.
Try again.
[QUOTE=“Julio Geordio, post: 1126281, member: 332”]Australia pay other countries to take them off their hands. Needless to say the numbers attempting the journey has plummeted.
It’s horrendous, but we as a race do not seem to be able to get along very well with each other. The effects continue for generations; see France, Belgium, UK etc for examples.[/QUOTE]
Ideally we should divide the fugees up and send them to their former colonial masters to receive handsome reparations.
[QUOTE=“glasagusban, post: 1126283, member: 1533”]We can’t even stop drug smuggling boats, what makes you think we can stop people smuggling ones?
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We can’t stop crime either. Should we just not bother then?
[QUOTE=“glasagusban, post: 1126283, member: 1533”]The risk and rewards remains the same.
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Mate you advocated just letting them all in. You therefore wanted to change the reward side. That’s what we are arguing about.
I know you are only twelve but try to keep track of your nonsensical arguments at least.
Racist.
Why doesn’t everybody build a big fence like Israel did to keep the darkies out?