Mixed couple of days for the Liverpudlians. Yesterday they find out that their beloved club has been secretly raping the local area for their financial gain but today the man that knocked them off their fucking perch is retiring and there is light at the end of the tunnel after all. You take the good with the bad I suppose.
Justice for the residents of Lothair Road.
I suppose he hasn’t had that many great tactical battles with Heynckes to speak of. Mostly due to Heynckes’ teams not qualifying for the champions league as often over their respective careers. Guardiola vs Fergie was a tactical battle where one manager had messi on his team. And he won.
And Mourinho v Fergie?
And yet Heynckes is only one game away from matching Ferguson’s champions league trophy count.
That’s bullshit. The same argument could be made for Ronaldo being with United the year Liverpool ran them close in the league when he scored 40 odd goals. I am sure you won’t be making that argument.
It was Barca’s midfield dominance on both games that was the winning of them and not the presence of Messi. Xavi and Iniesta had the run of the pitch in Rome and yet two years later United did the exact same thing again and were dominated by Barca’s midfield. By your rather flippent comment you would think it was a a few moments of brilliance from Messi that was the difference between the sides when the reality was that United were completely outplayed and outthought in both games
You’re forgetting that myoofc were without Darren Fletcher.
What about Ferguson’s tactic in Wembley of thumping the ball long in an attempt to by pass the Barca midfield? That worked well.
So Rocko…Heynckes is tactically brilliant because he’s got a chance to win a second european cup, yet he’s not tactically inept because he’s failed to get many teams into the champions league over a period much longer than Fergie has?
Wasn’t it the first game in Rome where Guardiola played Messi in the centre for the first time completely flummoxing Ferguson?
No I won’t. I believe Messi is one of the greatest players ever and far superior player to Ronaldo, as do most people.
Messi is not a far superior payer to Ronaldo…he may be slightly better but both are outstanding players…
It was all going swimmingly this year with Wellbeck marking Alonso out of the game and Jones schooling Ronaldo until Nani got sent off.
In fairness ferguson was probably the first manager to show how to contain this great Barca team when he got the 0-0 draw in Camp Nou the year they last won Champs league…he set up the 2 lines across the pitch infront of back four and condensed everything…barca just passed the ball round never penetrating the last line of defence…Inter and Chelsea copied this in their successful champs league campaigns afterwards… In the wembley final against barca Fergie tried to go toe to toe with Barca and beat them the opposite way with width with Valencia on the wing ,who had a fookin mare of game,…barca destroyed them through the middle…
Moyes it is.
Indeed. They’d beaten Barca (under Rijkaard) rather luckily in the semi-final the year before when Messi was right of the 4-3-3 and Evra did relatively well on him. That “different look” that Guardiola came up with in Rome meant they completely destroyed them in midfield with Messi dropping deep to supplement Xavi, Iniesta et al.
Will this be the end of Howard Webbat Utd also??
That was a different Barca under Rijkaard who was sacked at the end of that season. Barca finished third in La Liga 18 points behind Madrid that season and United were extremely lucky to go through. Don’t know how you can say Ferguson showed how to contain a Barcelona side who had only picked up 67 points domestically that season.
What you believe is rather irrelevant. 40 goals is 40 goals.
Rafa went to the Camp Nou and beat the bastards 2-1.