Really we need lads to get 3-4 hours of PE every week in primary schools, instead they are learning some dead language and various other shite about some old white bearded fucker in the clouds.
Hurling, Math, Science and English should be the curriculum - in that order, and fuck everything else. Throw in History/Business for the teens.
Has the number of kids playing sport in the country as a whole really dropped dramatically? I doubt it has. Definitely not in big towns or cities.
Might take the ESRI to settle this one
Parents need to grab the xbox controller off the little fat fuckers and send them out to climb a tree or kick ball-end of.
[quote=âgola, post: 754658, member: 244â]Has the number of kids playing sport in the country as a whole really dropped dramatically? I doubt it has. Definitely not in big towns or cities.
Might take the ESRI to settle this one[/quote]
Once it happens outside the M50 then Gola doesnât want to know about it
[quote=âgola, post: 754658, member: 244â]Has the number of kids playing sport in the country as a whole really dropped dramatically? I doubt it has. Definitely not in big towns or cities.
Might take the ESRI to settle this one[/quote]
Depends what you refer to as playing sport, and where you take the numbers from. GAA Club will register players on the chance they do show up, but do they actually turn up and play?
As John Giles said, children these days are obsessed with their walkmans and personal stereos.
Well there was a ridiculous increase in the number of kids playing organised sports in the 1990s and 2000s. In the good old days a kid would learn to kick football on the street. If he was any good his friends would bring him to the local club. Parents had no role in this. If he was no use the friends would be too embarrassed to do bring him to the club and theyâd leave him in the goals for kickabouts. At some stage in the 1990s that all changed and as soon as a child turned five he was dropped down to the local club and enrolled in some class of a nursery programme which involved the doting parent looking on lovingly as their child did handstands or swung themselves around the goalposts paying no heed to the âmatchâ going on around them.
Because the times had changed and the child was now king a coach couldnât go to a parent and tell them that their beloved was fucking useless and not to bring them back. So the clubs were saddled with young lads crying because nobody would pass the ball to them in matches that were now non competitive waiting til the clock ticked down and the matches became competitive at which point the parent would become convulsed at the unfairness of his child who had been at every training session for the last 8 years, whether he liked it or not, always being a sub and would remove the child to another club.
There were always kids who didnât play sport and there always will be. Chasing around after a ball on a freezing cold winterâs night isnât all itâs cracked up to be for some kids, and they are probably right.
Thats nice and all Fagan but nowadays every little brat is gorging himself on all sorts of unhealthy shit all day long whilst barely moving from the couch, so forcing these soon to be obese pieces of shit into sports for half a dozen hours a week is the only way to prevent our nation from becoming a shower of bulbous cunts.
Perhaps. But that is a societal problem
It is a shocking waste of scarce resources for the GAA or The FAI to be coaching kids who have no interest in the game.
[quote=âFagan ODowd, post: 754723, member: 706â]Perhaps. But that is a societal problem
It is a shocking waste of scarce resources for the GAA or The FAI to be coaching kids who have no interest in the game.[/quote]
As I heard a coach say one day after being complimented on the fine number of young lads they had training âHalf of them would be better off below in Ballybunion rather than taking up space hereâ
Fagan is right. By the time a kid is twelve he should know if he is shite or not at sports and jack it in and not waste his or other peoples time. Take up snooker or running or cycling or sonething. And there was no such thing as parents taking little diddums to training in the old days either, you made your own way. And if you werenât any good they woukdnât tell you there was training anyway!
take your head out of the sand you arsehole
a football team full of muldoons shows a cultural shift away from rural sports
[quote=âFagan ODowd, post: 754675, member: 706â]Well there was a ridiculous increase in the number of kids playing organised sports in the 1990s and 2000s. In the good old days a kid would learn to kick football on the street. If he was any good his friends would bring him to the local club. Parents had no role in this. If he was no use the friends would be too embarrassed to do bring him to the club and theyâd leave him in the goals for kickabouts. At some stage in the 1990s that all changed and as soon as a child turned five he was dropped down to the local club and enrolled in some class of a nursery programme which involved the doting parent looking on lovingly as their child did handstands or swung themselves around the goalposts paying no heed to the âmatchâ going on around them.
Because the times had changed and the child was now king a coach couldnât go to a parent and tell them that their beloved was fucking useless and not to bring them back. So the clubs were saddled with young lads crying because nobody would pass the ball to them in matches that were now non competitive waiting til the clock ticked down and the matches became competitive at which point the parent would become convulsed at the unfairness of his child who had been at every training session for the last 8 years, whether he liked it or not, always being a sub and would remove the child to another club.
There were always kids who didnât play sport and there always will be. Chasing around after a ball on a freezing cold winterâs night isnât all itâs cracked up to be for some kids, and they are probably right.[/quote]
Thereâs a lot of truth in what you say Fagan. I was one of those kids who wasnât particuarly good at any sport, but I loved training sessions in soccer, football and hurling growing up, barely ever made it onto a team, but I played a shit load of each game, in organised teams and probably more so for days on end with mates. My parents had no interest in sport and rarely if ever turned up to watch, but that didnât and doesnât bother me.
Its totally different now. As a parent now, you kind of feel obliged to be involved in everything your kid(s) do. Sport and other activities for kids have to be organised in a club. Its great that parents are more involved now, but its brought its own problems, as youâve observed above. Iâve coached kids soccer teams and its not much fun explaining to a parent that their kid is useless, primarily because they as a parent have never actually spent any time playing the sport with them, outside of a club. Iâve had to teach 8 and 9 year old kids, who have been playing with a club since they were 5, how to kick a ball properly.
I think the real problem is that the club has become the start and finish of childrens sporting activities. Not many play football outside of training and games at a club. The spontaneous kick around seems to be a thing of the past. There has to be a point to everything now for kids, there has to be a reward for them, there has to be recognition of everything they do. When I was 12, I came home and told Dad I scored 1-3 against the Starlights (one of the great moments of my sporting career), he barely looked up from the paper. Now they get a certificate for turning up and managing to get into their club kit without injuring themselves.
Fitz Jnr plays rep soccer here and by and large all the kids in this soccer academy are very good footballers and really good, honest, funny, intelligent kids. Generally their parents have brought them up by playing a lot of sport with them, informally, and letting them play as much as possible with other kids. Everytime we go down the local park for a kick around, the same kids and parents are there, just kicking a ball around, not worrying about what reward theyâll get, but whether they enjoy it. Thats the key, do the kids enjoy it? If they donât enjoy sport and want to do ballet, then let them do ballet. Who cares?
Parents are very competitive and hate to be seen to be doing the wrong thing. Parents parenting badly is the real problem IMO.
Did you do ballet fitzy? and were you anygood
[quote=âFitzy, post: 754915, member: 236â]Thereâs a lot of truth in what you say Fagan. I was one of those kids who wasnât particuarly good at any sport, but I loved training sessions in soccer, football and hurling growing up, barely ever made it onto a team, but I played a shit load of each game, in organised teams and probably more so for days on end with mates. My parents had no interest in sport and rarely if ever turned up to watch, but that didnât and doesnât bother me.
Its totally different now. As a parent now, you kind of feel obliged to be involved in everything your kid(s) do. Sport and other activities for kids have to be organised in a club. Its great that parents are more involved now, but its brought its own problems, as youâve observed above. Iâve coached kids soccer teams and its not much fun explaining to a parent that their kid is useless, primarily because they as a parent have never actually spent any time playing the sport with them, outside of a club. Iâve had to teach 8 and 9 year old kids, who have been playing with a club since they were 5, how to kick a ball properly.
I think the real problem is that the club has become the start and finish of childrens sporting activities. Not many play football outside of training and games at a club. The spontaneous kick around seems to be a thing of the past. There has to be a point to everything now for kids, there has to be a reward for them, there has to be recognition of everything they do. When I was 12, I came home and told Dad I scored 1-3 against the Starlights (one of the great moments of my sporting career), he barely looked up from the paper. Now they get a certificate for turning up and managing to get into their club kit without injuring themselves.
Fitz Jnr plays rep soccer here and by and large all the kids in this soccer academy are very good footballers and really good, honest, funny, intelligent kids. Generally their parents have brought them up by playing a lot of sport with them, informally, and letting them play as much as possible with other kids. Everytime we go down the local park for a kick around, the same kids and parents are there, just kicking a ball around, not worrying about what reward theyâll get, but whether they enjoy it. Thats the key, do the kids enjoy it? If they donât enjoy sport and want to do ballet, then let them do ballet. Who cares?
Parents are very competitive and hate to be seen to be doing the wrong thing. Parents parenting badly is the real problem IMO.[/quote]
mate- Australians are more reclusive than the spudmunchers - kids still play ball on the road at home
I didnât Massey, but thanks for asking.
One of my lads got player of the month in the soccer club lately for being ever present at training and for not arguing with the trainer.
I read somewhere lately that this generation of parents spend more time with their kids than any other. But this time seems to be always filled with âeventsâ.
[quote=âbalbec, post: 754921, member: 193â]One of my lads got player of the month in the soccer club lately for being ever present at training and for not arguing with the trainer.
I read somewhere lately that this generation of parents spend more time with their kids than any other. But this time seems to be always filled with âeventsâ.[/quote]
When you say events, do you mean sports events, days out? Iâm not sure if you mean this is a bad thing or a good thing?
I think some lads are losing sight of the main point here, even if a kid is shit, its better that heâs out involved with some sporting team rather than sitting on his hole playing Xbox or shuffling around the streets of the local town with the local wasters. We all had lads who were pants on teams growing up with us, but they enjoyed what they were doing and enjoyed being somewhat part of a team. The option should still be there for them, and they should still be encouraged along.
[quote=âmyboyblue, post: 754924, member: 180â]When you say events, do you mean sports events, days out? Iâm not sure if you mean this is a bad thing or a good thing?
I think some lads are losing sight of the main point here, even if a kid is shit, its better that heâs out involved with some sporting team rather than sitting on his hole playing Xbox or shuffling around the streets of the local town with the local wasters. We all had lads who were pants on teams growing up with us, but they enjoyed what they were doing and enjoyed being somewhat part of a team. The option should still be there for them, and they should still be encouraged along.[/quote]
Not so much events/days out rather the observation would be that kids donât seem to have a lot of idle time. There is always some training or piano lessons or swimming or something to go to. Many parents are like taxi drivers at a weekend ferrying kids from one thing to another.
Thatâs no bad thing either Iâd say.