Not another Trump thread, zzzzz

I rest my case.

Don’t you think Europeans have killed enough Jews?

Oh, and on the topic of Nazi, dog whistles, consider the following.

Trump’s Department of Homeland Security made up the following numbers.

Why did they choose the number 1488, I wonder?

Here’s why.

Answer the question, why do you promote killing Jews?

Do not think enough have been killed already?

Unfortunately all you have to go on when attempting to paint me as a Nazi is a really shit obvious attempt at edgy humour from eight years ago.

You sort of ignore the thousands of anti-racist posts that have driven you demented, because you so obviously despise my real stance.

When ascertaining your real sympathies, it’s not difficult to dig up stuff that is incredibly dodgy, there’s a litany of bigotry, pseudo-“scientiffic” racism, and consistent denial that outright racism and anti-semitism is in fact such.

I’m not the AfD supporter, mate.

Perhaps you could answer the question yourself, given that you could provide a far more authentic viewpoint from that stance?

Kill the Jews = “edgy humour”

OK, I get it. Nothing anti-Semitic in that :joy:

Yeah, but here’s the thing you don’t get, mate.

Edgy humour, even really shit attempts like that, are made because the poster does not in fact hold those views. They are attempts at irony. Sure, they can be shit and even come across appallingly when misjudged, but they are in no way comparable to your genuinely held abhorrent views.

I know this is hard for you to understand.

On the other hand, you have entirely unironically stood up for racism, anti-semitism, pseudo-“scientific” racism which holds that certain races are genetically superior in terms of intelligence than others (I wonder which races you could be referring to, dear me), and all sorts of other abhorrent bigotry. You’ve defended outright political corruption and defended fascism.

I know you’re really irked that that has been called out here, but it’s not my problem if your feelings are hurt when other people can see through what your real views are.

As I’ve said numerous times you believe everyone who is to the right of you is a Nazi. Even though the Nazis were themselves socialists (not Marxists like you, but believed in state socialism and implemented it), and actual Marxist socialists like yourself are responsible for the most evil totalitarian regimes in history that slaughtered and starved over 100 million people (China, USSR, Cambodia, etc.).

Your hatred of the US is illuminating, given it was the US who freed Europe from the Nazis and protected Europe from the Soviet Nazis for decades.

All I see there is somebody who cogs their views from the tweets of far right talk radio show hosts.

Your views are comically simplistic and demonstrate a hilarious ignorance of the world as well as a total inability to argue against anything other than your own made up straw men.

Oh, and you still haven’t addressed your your own and your party’s racism and anti-semitism.

It’s funny how you never, ever address this stuff.

We know why that is.

It’s because politics is a game to you, in which you have decided to side with the authoritarians.

When you do that, you can justify anything in your own mind.

Nobody on here agrees with your nonsense mate, you are completely and utterly delusional. It is a mark of the delusional to claim they represent other people, when they, like you, represent nobody.

I have said Asian American kids routinely score higher than white American kids in IQ test. Call me a racist for that if you like, but only a moron would do so.

I don’t hold any racist or alt-right views, that is in your nutter head. I am a centrist who leans left on social issues and right on economic issues, just like most people in the US, the greatest democracy the world has known. I abhor Marxist-Leninism and the utterly delusional nutters who promote it. The nutters who ignore all history of Marxist-Leninist regimes, because you know “next time will be different”.

Scuttle away now and find a few “edgy humour” quotes of mine that back up your delusions.

More delusion. I am not a member of any political party and have never been a member of a political party, either here or in Ireland. I am an independent (you know someone who can think for themselves, rather than relying on BuzzFeed) who has voted Democrat far more often than Republican, both locally and nationally.

I’m certainly capable of the odd bit of nonsense alright, but I’d like to think that my much more regular sensible contributions more than outweigh them, and believe me, my views are very much in the majority in this country, whereas yours are that of a soup taking imperialist nut job.

I wouldn’t be too worried about what a load of far right trolls think.

Believe me on these things, and I’m deadly serious.

You aren’t a “centrist” - you’re about as far away from such as is possible.

You aren’t a good debater.

You contradict yourself so regularly that one could only presume you’re doing so deliberately, although I know that isn’t the case.

You do have a genuine racism problem, as is demonstrated over and over and over again on this forum. Just look at how you’ve refused to engage in this exchange on the subject, both as regards your own racism and that of the Republican party. All you have on the subject is the standard alt-right playbook - throw mud and run away. I absolutely skewered you on a thread you opened last week and you had no comeback at all.

It’s really rather boring engaging with somebody who fancies themselves as an “intellect” yet has nothing more than standard partisan barstool blather to throw.

If you had even visited the US and talked to people here, you would know my views are perfectly consistent with most people here, leaning left on social issues and right on fiscal issues. The fact you claim to be some kind of expert on the US is derisory given you have never been in the fucking country. At least many on here have visited, and several have lived here.

Your views are not in the majority in Ireland, you are confusing the tiny idiot Twitterati minority like yourself with what most people actually think. You can see what people in Ireland think by the way they vote, the great majority vote for center or center right parties. Fringe nutcase hard left Marxists have close to zero support in Ireland, actually not just in Ireland they have been losing ground throughout Europe as people have woken up to their utter bullshit.

Most people in Ireland know very little about the US, and form their opinions based on whatever media source they read, mostly online these days. The Irish media swallow hook line and sinker the rhetoric from liberal (and now openly left wing) sources in the US like CNN and MSNBC, who are so biased as to now have zero credibility. You of course go one step further and swallow whatever garbage BuzzFeed publishes or whatever horseshit some fellow nutter on Twitter posts.

The fact that you are now resorting only to ad hominem demonstrates you are, once again, a beaten docket.

You are not a centrist in any sense of the word.

The problem with you is that you exist in a such a bubble, that you have no idea what actual centrism is.

The Labour party in Ireland is centrist. The Liberal Democrats are centrist. Much of the UK Labour party is centrist. The majority of western European governments are centrist. Most of the Democratic party in the US is centrist.

The Republican party, which you support, is a far right party both in the US and by comparison to pretty much every other democratic country in the world.

This is obvious to all but the most blinkered idiots.

You’re the type of person who would have said that any German in the 1940s who wasn’t expressly in favour of the Holocaust was a “centrist”, even if they favoured forced public identification by Jews and deportation.

In fact that’s exactly the same logic you use to try and make out that those who still support Trump even after three and a half years of sustained racism, misogynism, corruption and criminality, are not racist, or happy to tolerate racism, which is the same thing.

Read Timothy Snyder’s “On Tyranny” or listen to any of the podcasts he’s done - I know you love Sam Harris - he’s done one with him. You clearly need to educate yourself in a big way about what is going on.

People know more these days than they ever did. You can see the growth of economys, national debt anything you want in 20 seconds. What are you talking about?

All he has is to shout emptily, “Marxist” or “Communist” or “Nazi”, which is terribly ironic given he exudes such authoritarianism with every post.

He’d actually do well do to read some Marxism, because whatever about its solutions, which I generally disagree with, because I’m not a Marxist, Marxism certainly identifies the problems in today’s societies and economies, perhaps better than anything else today, and undeniably in a far more cogent manner than the jaded, cliched and utterly wrong analysis of reactionary right capitalists.

In fact this even admitted by that pillar of capitalist orthodoxy, The Economist magazine.

The average person in Ireland knows very little about the US, I base that claim on people I have spoken to in Ireland and what I read online by Irish people (not just here). They may know more than they did, but clearly everything they know is based on what they read on FB.

I know that Tom Brady isn’t finished and you said he was.

Don’t bother.