The footix and the horsix will be massively relieved
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563 more dead in the UK.
McWilliams is spot on. The absolute state of some of the journalistic framing of this crisis in both the UK and US. Political access journalists (ie. mouthpieces) need to fuck off. Laura Kuennsberg is wandering around lost and out of her depth like Ali Dia in that Southampton-Liverpool match in 1996.
It’s an awful pity that you failed at journalism. Imagine the good you could have done if you were worth a fuck.
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Thanks for the compliment
And yet, despite the buffoon in charge, . . . The US still has a lower death rate (12) per one million of population than Belgium (71), the Netherlands (68), France (54), Switzerland (53), the UK (35), Sweden (24), Denmark (18) . . . and Ireland (14).
Density of population is a killer.
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Because they’re small and mainly densely populated countries where the virus spread quicker. The same logic says African countries are handling this crisis the best, ie. it isn’t logic at all.
The US now has one in five global cases and, has more than double what China has, and has already passed out China’s deaths figure, and China has the world’s largest population.
The US would be in a far better position now if a literal tub of lard was president, because the tub of lard wouldn’t have called the virus a hoax, wouldn’t have said it would go away like a miracle, wouldn’t have punished whistleblowers, wouldn’t have rejectedthe WHO test. wouldn’t have bid up the price of ventilators so states can’t get their hands on them, wouldn’t have pushed unscientific advice onto the population, wouldn’t have tried to turn the virus into a racist witch hunt against Chinese people.
You’re right for now. But it looks like they are on a serious upward curve. It’s the protests from the medical staff over there over PPE and equipment that would really scare you.
I don’t think anyone on here is disagreeing that Trump is a waste of space . . . maybe he might finally let his medical advisors do their job (also, the population density of Sweden is lower than the US)
Fair play to @Dziekanowski be was ahead of the curve on this the whole time. I won’t doubt him again.
There has been 2000 tests carried out on NHS staff since the start of this out of a workforce of 1.2m. Approx 0.15%. Slightly less than the national average. Never mind they got a round of applause.
Stop lad. The place is a few days from absolute carnage FFS
You can’t really compare the US to individual European countries, due to the disparity of states in terms of population density and volume of travel in and out of the state. A more valid comparison is individual states with individual countries in Europe. New York city is over 100 deaths per million, which is a real outlier in the US so far.
It gets interesting when you look at the individual states. Don’t forget the US instigated international travel restrictions and declared a public health emergency on January 31. How individual states reacted may say more about what they are seeing now than anything else. I live in the SF bay area and people were already taking this seriously in early February, we were also the first to implement shelter in place. New York in contrast didn’t take this remotely seriously, politicians and even health officials telling people in February to carry on as normal and go out and enjoy themselves.
New York has greater population density than the bay area, but the populations are not that different, 8.6 million versus 7.8 million. New York has 1,100 deaths so far and we have less than 100. There are obviously lots of factors involved, age profile, how well the vulnerable were protected, etc. but that’s a hell of a difference.
The US death toll is obviously going to get a lot higher, at 100k dead that would be 300 per million. Nobody knows what the final number will be, or when it will be, but for now outside of New York the death rate is fairly contained elsewhere.
The models could well be as wrong now as every other model we have had so far. I think the experts on stage yesterday have somewhat extrapolated what is happening in New York state to the other states. Not sure how valid that is. The state with the largest population CA has less than 200 deaths compared to NY at 1,552. That’s a death rate of 5 per million versus 80 per million. Hell of a difference, and CA had confirmed cases before NY.
Obviously the numbers are going up everywhere but I don’t see any other state getting to NY levels.
I see nothing to suggest that the US policy of head in the sand until very recently will somehow insulate them from the mess we’ve seen elsewhere. They are in a better position to ride it out than pretty much anyone else, but doesn’t mean it won’t get ugly
Of course it’s going to get ugly, and we have no idea how ugly when restrictions are eased after the near term numbers improve, and then we are hit with a second wave later this year. Like everywhere it’s all about trying to contain it now and keep the hospitals functioning.
As for head in the sand, the US declared a state of emergency and issued social isolation guidelines on March 14. States have been shutting down since that date. Too late obviously, but similar time frame and actions to everywhere else in the western world.
Surely that figure of 1.2m million NHS workers can’t be right. The population of the UK is only about 65m. 1 in 60 British people work for the NHS?
NY has the underground Subway, clever San Fran knew what was coming and only has the BART. God bless the BART, who knows how many lives it’s saved this year. God forbid San Fran ever gets underground public transport.
You’d want your head examined to get on any public transport without a hazmat suit.
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