Interesting conversation with Wooly and Christy O Connor on the Irish times piece with the kid who didn’t get a game.
They agreed that Go Games up to u11 are fine but where do you draw the line with trying to win the game.
Semi finals are there to be won.
I find a lot of those articles that come out every year are usually a TNH. You then find all the comments underneath of mothers and how their son played and when he didnt get a game one time because the coach played his son, the kid quit forever. More often than not, a kid quits because they dont like sports and its not for them. And thats fine. Its the whole shite where a parent cant accept it and then blames coaches for not picking them. When its likely the coach did everything they could but the child just didnt like it and wanted to quit. If the child actually liked it and was halfway decent, theyd stick at it. They dont have to be the best ever, but any way middling good is enough to enjoy playing even if only on the fringes of a team.
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Definitely.
I would say it must be very difficult in very big clubs where even a few middling lads don’t get a game compared to any other rural club. But in general if any kid practices and has any co-ordination he will get a game.
The question I suppose then is when does a coach go all out to win? I personally think once it comes to knock out championship it should be all out to win it from u13 up.
Most counties have leagues plus league championship formats where its time for squad rotation etc.
Yeah u13 wouldnt bother me too much, still let them develop enough but try bring a little bit more competitiveness to it. I also found that some kids knew they weren’t good enough and were happy to be on a succesful squad and didnt want to be a reason to lose a game by playing tight games. I found their parents wanted the child played more than the child actually wanted to play themselves. Some kids just like being with their friends and in the social group but not necessarily needing to play the games.
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That’s not confirmed yet I’d imagine.
I think for the lads who arent any good, they generally all know it and aren’t that put out abiut not playing. It is more the status of being the lad who never gets a run puts a clear badge on their uselessness in front of their pals
Thats where a good coach comes in. The kid needs a positive reaction to something that they will have done in a game or training. Make a deal of it, encourage him so they know theyve been praised in front of others. Sometimes its not even being skillful, but praising their work ethic or their motivation in front of others gives them a lift they need.
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Lads can improve. One of the most average underage hurlers I saw played senior for years after.
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Shite senior team so
Won 3 senior counties. Obviously can’t name him here.
Will be passed I imagine.
I’d have my doubts, will kill smaller clubs.
So intercounty under 17, club under 18 and no under 18s allowed to play with adult club? Wow, will destroy rural clubs. Clubs do not flog under 18s if their with the clubs senior team from my experience. Barrs would probably not be in county final if this rule was in place this year. A minor with a poor under 18 club will be under cooked rather than over cooked.
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100%.
There is some simpletons saying that u18s cannot play senior hurling.
TNH
Who is saying that?
Loads of clowns like Brian Cuthbert on Twitter.
Can’t as in won’t be allowed, or can’t as in not physically able?
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How does the no 18 year olds thing destroy rural clubs? Have they just the bare minimum players every year and always a few 18 year olds? Mathematically that doesn’t make sense. Surely they’d only be destroyed for a year till the lads turn 19
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