Is the objective of coaching not to make each player better? Players will be better if they start skills training at 6 in conjunction with movement training than just movement training. This is undeniable. Resorting to calling someone a moron doesn’t help an argument by the way
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You’re posting complete sense here, pal. It’s completely logical that children should be taught both movement and skills. To prohibit a child from learning the skills of football or hurling until they reach 10 is absurd.
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movement ahead of skills is mental
I coach at Malahide yacht club. If kids didn’t know the fundamentals on the sport they would drown ffs yet kev wants to make sure they are agile first and foremost:grinning:
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What sports do they hold at the yacht club? Good to see organisations helping each other out
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Deck shoe throwing, knot tying and cunt acting.
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the Olympic sport of sailing mate
Nobody is saying to prohibit anything till 10. that was an arbitrary age made up by TUM. It was a suggestion. between ages 6 & 9 are critical ages.
Some kids will improve their mivement very quickly, after 6 or 7 sessions.
But scientifically he is not making sense, no matter what you say. If they don’t have Fundamental Movement Skills to a decent level, which about 50% of the population doesn’t now in my experience, by age 9 they will disrupt their ability to pick up skills going forward forever and will lose interest and confidence in regards everythong they do in sport and indeed in other areas.
If you develop the whole range of skills thru fun games they will develop the mechanics to pick up the sports more easily and you have a much better chance of retaining them long term. Playing fun striking and chase games will develop their swing and speed for hurling for instance.
The aim of the game is retention and participation. Everything after that is irrelivant to society in reality.
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It helps me put you off the list of someone worth duscussing this subject with
So what you’re saying is that you need to work on both movement and skills to get players better? Thanks for coming around to my point of view
Thats not what you said or understood, so don’t be revising.
You, and bandage, are clearly talking about the direct skills of the Gaelic Sports.
I said you have to develop the fundamental movemebt skills FIRST
My first post was “you need a mix of both, general skill levels would be atrocious if kids only started skills training at 10” you fucking mentalist
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That’s why I stepped in to back you up, pal. You made a completely sensible point and @caoimhaoin called you a fucking moron in reply. He read what he wanted to read and not what you actually posted. You’re a delicate flower and struggle to roll with the INTERNET punches like @Horsebox and @backinatracksuit so I thought you might appreciate the support. Kev owes you a fulsome apology.
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And you are wrong. It was a stupid uneducated statement now and it will remain so. the skills will be worse if they don’t learn to move well first.
If you try and force GAA skills on kids who cannot bend down properly for instance, or lack hand-eye motor skills(lunge) they will give up the sport. If they cannot dynamically support their hips before trying certain skills you are making them more injury probe. and so on.
You need to move well first. the major issue here is you do not understand movement or skill accusition.
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Kids can go to athletics or gymnastics for movement only instruction. GAA clubs should continue to offer both skills and movement for children aged 6+ as they have been doing for over 100 years.
Your ignorance continues unabated. Keep doing it cos we always did it that way approach 
Life has changed. human biomechanics have changed due to sedentary lifestyles. sports now have an obligation to kids to improve that. Especially seeing as schools can’t/won’t. The rewards for the clubs long term are endless as well.
Connection to a club and intrinsic motivation to support/play/administrate for a club can be set in very early. if they have lots of fun when young they will associate it with that club and those people. if they are driven demented by drill sergeants they will quickly forget it.
GAA clubs are losing out in modern Ireland in certain demographixs because other sports like Rugby, Hockey and Tennis are taking these approaches.
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@caoimhaoin is handing out lessons here
GAA development officer told me that difference in kids he sees now who go to gymnastics and those who don’t is night and day. Said most kids would benefit from 3 or 4 years gymnastics and then start sports. Kids don’t climb trees anymore and some won’t have full shoulder rotation, don’t run or tumble etc
Teaching kids ground lifts when a kid cannot run or squat to a crouch or stand on one leg is silly
Exactly. That’s why you need to combine movement and skills as @the_man_himself posted. You’re actually agreeing with us.
Movement should be primary. GAA clubs don’t teach movement
Add in skills as part of it but make movemen Central