Actually you are right. Maybe the lady last night was Hayes and not Cleary. No mention of new rugby quarter from any of them sadly.
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The county vote is locked in. No need for the favs to run any risk.
https://twitter.com/scolionetwork/status/1859164130684403936
What a coward Harris is.
If it was a bar or a barndance the cunt would be there in double jig time.
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Why would he go meet them to he shouted at for the cameras?
Why does there have to be cameras present? They’re looking for a meeting not a public event.
He has repeatedly lied to and thwarted these people and continues to do so it seems.
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As I said
You’d often hear that the average Irish person roots for someone like the Monk or General because we have a natural aversion and hatred of authority. I think that’s partly true but the real reasons are deeper than that. I look at it as a rejection of western culture and more so of individual capitalist ideology…
Now, you might point to this as a slight contradiction as we’re celebrating an individual, but in an Irish sense the chieftain was symbolic of clan / family/ collective action. We didn’t have hereditary kingship – the clan decided who was best suited to represent the collective and was bound to collective at all times, not the other way around. You look at JP and Bertie and Sean Quinn – they all fit this mold of chieftain type figure also – it’s not just violent criminals… the support for violent criminals is just that bit more perplexing.
The western mind evolved with the secular church – the banning of marrying cousins and kin basically developed the nuclear family which was the beginning of capitalism. Families (fathers/men) had to make contracts with others to survive … the older arrangement , which still exists in large parts of the world, allowed for kin marriages. Laws and honour were based on shame to the wider clan. The economy was based on the wider clan. Everything in life revolved around the clan. Now you had individual entrepreneurship.
The protestant reformation and then Cartesian dualism further helped create the conditions for capitalism – individualism.
But tho we are very much in the western hemisphere and are very much a capitalist country – we continued to defy church and tan authority on clan and marriage right up to the 18th century. Which was much later than most western countries – and the reality is the peasantry continued to obey old ways right up to the 20th century. And today we kinda exist between both worlds – spiritually we’re still pagan Celts where all our songs are sad and all our wars are happy - but we’re also 21st century venture capitalists . But the spiritual side creeps out now and again when it comes to figures like the monk. He’s not just seen as a Robin Hood type character that rights the moral economy - he’s a rejection of western individualism and capitalism that has us competing against one another and instead he represents the collective and our longing to return to a more egalitarian society.
Basically – a vote for the monk is an admission you want to ride your cousin.
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Take the plastic bag off your head now.
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Would it be partly true that modern traveller culture is a lot like 18th/19th century mainstream Irish culture? . The religion, male domination, loads of kids marrying your cousin etc. And that the way we view travellers is a lot like how the Irish were viewed abroad? Criminals, lazy, too many kids, marry your cousin etc.
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Was it a ‘hot take’ ?
You’re not far off.
The culture of grabbing a wife that travellers do today was often practiced. Wimmin with potential acreage.
Cock fighting. Horse riding. Fighting. Drinking.
All widely practised.
People see the famine as the breaking point but the ‘free market’ had long begun the process of civilizing us bastards. The agrarian crimes often associated with secret socities were generally a rejection of capitalism and the move away from traditional economic means (barter) and particularly shared grazing and tillage.
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The donnybrook fair was meant to be an absolute free for all far worse than any ballinasloe or traveller wedding. Before it became a shop for posh cunts to buy their dinner.
Fairs were lethal.
Before towns became towns and mechanisms of the central state (post office, police, court, jail) people would have lived very reclusive rural lives
But the fair brought them together and we had family/ faction fights like today. The Ryans v the Ryans in Tipp.
A class elemental crept in here as the market took over society - small v large farmers.
But if you read police reports from the time tonnes of people were murdered at fairs or had their skull put in walking back from a fair.
You’d also see loads of people attacked for selling their potatoes at a different price to others or the agreed price - that moral economy again.
A vote for the monk will see potatoes sold at fair prices.
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That doesn’t seem very fair at all.
They are in leafy Douglas T12 
Just spotted The Mayor of Fingal (cc @Juhniallio) giving a pep talk to his Labour comrades at the junction of Killester Avenue & St Brigid’s Road before they split off to become lone insurgents/canvassers.
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Please tell me he wasnt wearing the mayoral chains?
Here’s one I prepared earlier but they’re wearing the red hi viz/substitute/Bainisteoir style bibs:
https://twitter.com/shanefolan/status/1858910570168156212?s=46&t=0sQkcb7z4szDmx1-2Xlm0w
The chap that ended up calling to my door was an SDLP fella from the north. Said Shane & Aodhan help them over the years & they return the favour.
It only dawned on me afterwards but didn’t Micky Martin & Colum Eastwood announce a FF/SDLP partnership a few years back? That seems to have quietly been abandoned.
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Vinny B getting stuck into Fine Gael. The longer this campaign goes on, the worse it seems to be going for them. I see The Journal fact checking Harris on scoliosis claims & The Ditch with a story about a FG candidate (Big Colm Brophy’s wife) allegedly seeking a pay off from a developer in return for not blocking a housing development. It’s amusing to see IRA/SF taking the high moral ground with all these press releases demanding Harris responds/apologises etc for this, that & the other.
https://twitter.com/vincentbrowne/status/1859330865718853850?s=46&t=0sQkcb7z4szDmx1-2Xlm0w
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