Imagine having to choose between Lowry and AK47. Those new redraws were a joke!
Caught most of the Limerick City debate on YouTube.
Sadly box office Frankie Daly was missing.
In Summary:
Sweet Dee Ryan and Sheehan from Labour were the most competent debaters. Real Lisa Simpson energy from Dee.
O’Donnell from FG had very little to say and said it with little enthusiasm.
Gavan the second Shinner had a good grasp of the facts and landed some zingers on FFG but unlikely to be in the final shakeup.
Hospital Lady very passionate about that cause but no substance on any other issue.
Elisa surprisingly composed with no culture wars stuff or attacks on TFK posters.
PBP lad quite reasonable and less preachy than most of his colleagues.
Verdict: Waste of time without Willie and Frankie.
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Green, Labour, Soc Dems, Independent Left Chap in the Champions League places.
Sinn Féin ranked lower than FFG for me after their lurch to the right to pander to Coolock Says No types.
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Mine was the same top 4. Lyons was above healy though. Was also surprised at how low SF were. That Jamie McGlue is a supreme headbanger
I matched just 38% (thirty eight per cent) with Sinn Fein.
This was well below the FF candidate that came to my door on 63% and the Blueshirts who have not come to my door on 58%.
38% was still above the 0% I matched with the “Ireland First” and “Irish Freedom Party” “candidates”.
Did they say why they weren’t there? Willie has little to gain from it, but would have thought it a good opportunity for Frankie
i think the general consensus on most people I know that did this is how right wing SF are on most issues
Mad that Kilkenny let some of the constituency slide into Tipp. If it was the south of the county there’d be an armed uprising before they’d let themselves be part of the Waterford constituency.
FFG aren’t doing too well so far on the TFK candidate matching.
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We want turf in the fire
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Nobody bought my vote after it anyway.
I don’t think that was the real hospital lady unless I missed her on the bits I saw. The one you might be referring to was very timid, you couldn’t have her in the Dáil. I’d say Simon Harris would scare the life out of her if he passed her in the corridor.
Leddin and some other one were mentioned as having intended to be there but something else came up for them, kind of implied the others couldn’t be bothered at all. I think there’s another debate in UL today, I don’t know who is attending.
They were hoping to have a county debate also but Rob O’Donnell, Gerben Uunk and some other one were the only candidates interested.
Actually you are right. Maybe the lady last night was Hayes and not Cleary. No mention of new rugby quarter from any of them sadly.
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The county vote is locked in. No need for the favs to run any risk.
https://twitter.com/scolionetwork/status/1859164130684403936
What a coward Harris is.
If it was a bar or a barndance the cunt would be there in double jig time.
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Why would he go meet them to he shouted at for the cameras?
Why does there have to be cameras present? They’re looking for a meeting not a public event.
He has repeatedly lied to and thwarted these people and continues to do so it seems.
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As I said
You’d often hear that the average Irish person roots for someone like the Monk or General because we have a natural aversion and hatred of authority. I think that’s partly true but the real reasons are deeper than that. I look at it as a rejection of western culture and more so of individual capitalist ideology…
Now, you might point to this as a slight contradiction as we’re celebrating an individual, but in an Irish sense the chieftain was symbolic of clan / family/ collective action. We didn’t have hereditary kingship – the clan decided who was best suited to represent the collective and was bound to collective at all times, not the other way around. You look at JP and Bertie and Sean Quinn – they all fit this mold of chieftain type figure also – it’s not just violent criminals… the support for violent criminals is just that bit more perplexing.
The western mind evolved with the secular church – the banning of marrying cousins and kin basically developed the nuclear family which was the beginning of capitalism. Families (fathers/men) had to make contracts with others to survive … the older arrangement , which still exists in large parts of the world, allowed for kin marriages. Laws and honour were based on shame to the wider clan. The economy was based on the wider clan. Everything in life revolved around the clan. Now you had individual entrepreneurship.
The protestant reformation and then Cartesian dualism further helped create the conditions for capitalism – individualism.
But tho we are very much in the western hemisphere and are very much a capitalist country – we continued to defy church and tan authority on clan and marriage right up to the 18th century. Which was much later than most western countries – and the reality is the peasantry continued to obey old ways right up to the 20th century. And today we kinda exist between both worlds – spiritually we’re still pagan Celts where all our songs are sad and all our wars are happy - but we’re also 21st century venture capitalists . But the spiritual side creeps out now and again when it comes to figures like the monk. He’s not just seen as a Robin Hood type character that rights the moral economy - he’s a rejection of western individualism and capitalism that has us competing against one another and instead he represents the collective and our longing to return to a more egalitarian society.
Basically – a vote for the monk is an admission you want to ride your cousin.
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