[QUOTE=“Rocko, post: 1039025, member: 1”]Sindo MB poll tomorrow
SF 26 (+4)
FG 23 (-3)
FF 20 (-1)
Lab 7 (-2)
Ind 23 no change
Recent political attacks on SF seem to have strengthened SF at the expense of the 3 small parties.[/QUOTE]
That’s gas. The public have seen straight through Edna and Meehalls faux compassion
[QUOTE=“Rocko, post: 1039025, member: 1”]Sindo MB poll tomorrow
SF 26 (+4)
FG 23 (-3)
FF 20 (-1)
Lab 7 (-2)
Ind 23 no change
Recent political attacks on SF seem to have strengthened SF at the expense of the 3 small parties.[/QUOTE]
Jesus that’s hilarious 
I’d say the Sindo are seething.
Will they even publish it
Probably. But they’ll definitely publish it. Hard to know the relative impact of Cahill case and water charges. Most people only care about their back pocket. “It’s the economy stupid” etc…
Especially after this gem todayy
“The court of public opinion has already cast its verdict on Maria Cahill: it believes her.”
Lolzers
Very interesting to see how they spin it.
Water charges probably
Independents at 23 per cent. :rolleyes:
We are a nation of clowns. It’s as if people think that electing a Healy Rae ring fences their fiefdom from the foes of the global economy.
A SF v FG general election would be a sign of a maturing electorate. Left wing v Right wing but PR means it won’t happen. Labour look goosed as SF have eaten their vote. Battle is now between FF and SF for the centre left and SF are winning.
A hung Dail looks a real possibility after next election. FF will sign their death warrant if they go in as a minority partner to government.
[QUOTE=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 1039116, member: 2272”]Independents at 23 per cent. :rolleyes:
We are a nation of clowns. It’s as if people think that electing a Healy Rae ring fences their fiefdom from the foes of the global economy.
A SF v FG general election would be a sign of a maturing electorate. Left wing v Right wing but PR means it won’t happen. Labour look goosed as SF have eaten their vote. Battle is now between FF and SF for the centre left and SF are winning.
A hung Dail looks a real possibility after next election. FF will sign their death warrant if they go in as a minority partner to government.[/QUOTE]
FG/Labour will not have enough seats after the next electon to form a government. Sinn Fein will have a similar choice to what Labour had after the last election. Stay out of government and effectively force Fianna Fail to go in with Fine Gael or go in as a junior partner after which they will likely lose support significantly. Labour chose to go in and have destroyed themselves as an electoral force for the forseeable future. If Sinn Fein stay out of government and force FF in as junior partners there is a possibility they can destroy FF as a signficant electoral force for good and position themselves to lead a government in 2021.
[QUOTE=“TheUlteriorMotive, post: 1039116, member: 2272”]Independents at 23 per cent. :rolleyes:
We are a nation of clowns. It’s as if people think that electing a Healy Rae ring fences their fiefdom from the foes of the global economy.
A SF v FG general election would be a sign of a maturing electorate. Left wing v Right wing but PR means it won’t happen. Labour look goosed as SF have eaten their vote. Battle is now between FF and SF for the centre left and SF are winning.
A hung Dail looks a real possibility after next election. FF will sign their death warrant if they go in as a minority partner to government.[/QUOTE]
agreed on that regarding the independents
the like of Boyd Barett ( is he still independent or some joke 2 man “rebel” party?), Flanagan and Wallace are probably worse than scumbags like Healy Rae and anyone who votes for them needs their head examined. Boyd Barrett is a horrible piece of work , a Me Feiner trying to delude gullible students and fellas who should know better that this country should go back to a Pol Pot esque year zero and into some socialist utopia where we’ll all be happy and divide the bread and money equally… not before we force every single multinational out of the place and turn North Kildare into North Korea , the likes of Flanagan with his bullshit about piles of turf in Mayo or some hole and the other retard who sits all day looking at penalty points are nothing but a burden on the state and are a national embarrassment, Politics in this country is at ist lowest ebb in my 34 years… Inda is a hopeless case but the opposition are in a pathetic mess, Sinn Fein on 26%? they have no economic policy apart from this “tax the rich” bullshit or lets hammer anyone who works in a decent job and accuse them of being at fault for the state the countries in…
[QUOTE=“mickee321, post: 1039141, member: 367”]agreed on that regarding the independents
the like of Boyd Barett ( is he still independent or some joke 2 man “rebel” party?), Flanagan and Wallace are probably worse than scumbags like Healy Rae and anyone who votes for them needs their head examined. Boyd Barrett is a horrible piece of work , a Me Feiner trying to delude gullible students and fellas who should know better that this country should go back to a Pol Pot esque year zero and into some socialist utopia where we’ll all be happy and divide the bread and money equally… not before we force every single multinational out of the place and turn North Kildare into North Korea , the likes of Flanagan with his bullshit about piles of turf in Mayo or some hole and the other retard who sits all day looking at penalty points are nothing but a burden on the state and are a national embarrassment, Politics in this country is at ist lowest ebb in my 34 years… Inda is a hopeless case but the opposition are in a pathetic mess, Sinn Fein on 26%? they have no economic policy apart from this “tax the rich” bullshit or lets hammer anyone who works in a decent job and accuse them of being at fault for the state the countries in…[/QUOTE]
It’s nearly there already.
the public are certainly putting the correct people in place to ensure it does anyhow
Agreed. mate - Kildare North voted strongly for Fine Gael at the last election, don’t think anybody there voted for Richard Boyd Barrett though.
Agree with this. SF may still suffer from the transfer vote process as there is still an element of “you are either with them or against them” about them, which the recent revelations have probably helped to entrench. How this would play out I don’t know. Any minority coalition party of the left would need to be of strong minded individuals who are not as fond of having snouts in the trough as the animal farm pigs in govt at present.
If I could, I would vote for Martin Mcguinness.
The indo have two opinion pieces this morning trying to big up Martin. Comparing him to Jack Lynch
Also praising how he had “quietened sinn fein” this week
[QUOTE=“TreatyStones, post: 1039155, member: 1786”]The indo have two opinion pieces this morning trying to big up Martin. Comparing him to Jack Lynch
Also praising how he had “quietened sinn fein” this week[/QUOTE]
FFS.
If ever there was a lad who needed replacing its Mehall
[QUOTE=“mickee321, post: 1039141, member: 367”]agreed on that regarding the independents
the like of Boyd Barett ( is he still independent or some joke 2 man “rebel” party?), Flanagan and Wallace are probably worse than scumbags like Healy Rae and anyone who votes for them needs their head examined. Boyd Barrett is a horrible piece of work , a Me Feiner trying to delude gullible students and fellas who should know better that this country should go back to a Pol Pot esque year zero and into some socialist utopia where we’ll all be happy and divide the bread and money equally… not before we force every single multinational out of the place and turn North Kildare into North Korea , the likes of Flanagan with his bullshit about piles of turf in Mayo or some hole and the other retard who sits all day looking at penalty points are nothing but a burden on the state and are a national embarrassment, Politics in this country is at ist lowest ebb in my 34 years… Inda is a hopeless case but the opposition are in a pathetic mess, Sinn Fein on 26%? they have no economic policy apart from this “tax the rich” bullshit or lets hammer anyone who works in a decent job and accuse them of being at fault for the state the countries in…[/QUOTE]
Agreed, but that is simply left wing politics in general. I am not a socialist as such as I think that on balance a slightly centre right approach does the most good, unless a country is sitting on a barrel of saleable natural resources, in which case center left, but I think there should be a natural tension in politics, which is lost when the is no left wing party or element in the dail. The trouble, as you say above, is that so many utter fucking wasters are sitting in the dail at present, and the Labour Party have no interest in fairness, being foremost self serving. Coffin surfing really doesn’t help.
They’ve gone for:
Red faced republicans tried to discredit the outcome of the opinion poll before knowing the results and had to backtrack furiously.
Poll would mean FF, FG and SF all mid 40s seats wise , independents with about 3o seats and labour probably 5 seats.
If SF get close to power as a majority partner a lot of capital is going to leave Ireland. I would be nervous of leaving chunky money in bank accounts as a sitting duck in case of a bank bail in by SF in the form of a “once off” bank account levy.