Opinion Polls Thread

The same old line and no proof…how have SF been shown up? Because the Irish media have said so? This current government have been shown up time and time again from the minute they entered office… they’ve rowed back on everything they said but sheep like you are too thick to remember yesterday… The casual way you brushed aside the Irish Water disaster tells you all you need to know about the average paddy, thick as shit… They tried to privatize water by charging you twice for a service and the company they looked to outsource it to are as corrupt as fuck— but in failing to do all that they have now added 500m to the national debt. That’s the type of people you want leading us???

They are all as bad as each other-( SF included) -Party politics is fucking ridiculous in this day in age, anyone with a two shitty brain cells to rub together can see we have moved beyond this 18/19th century system but don’t have the gumption to end it.

The biggest issue this government has is its majority. It is so big that lads threating to or going against the whip doesnt matter. Therefore shit is just steamrolled in. Whatever the make up of the next lot, we will all be better off if there is a majority of no more then 10 seats. That way whatever recovery is there can be shared more evenly

Is “sharing the recovery more evenly” the new “most vulnerable”?

There would be no recovery to share without Kaiser Noonan.

It disgusts me that I pay a marginal rate of 55% and am asked to share more than that.

Politics of envy is what led to the huge growth in public sector pay and social welfare bills.

FG have moved to free GP care for Kids and OAPs. If electorate elect FF and a cohort of independents then I despair. Don’t agree with SF policies but at least they present an ideologically different argument - PR means they have to dilute that towards centre to be electable.

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why should the recovery be shared more equally?

If people do not want to work, or are overpaid inefficient wasteful public service employees, why should they share in a recovery?

absolutely correct.

With the recovery, the first thing is that we want our money back. 55% income tax (plus the money stolen from our private pension funds) is not acceptable.

Massive cuts to income tax are required.

If the useless inefficient overpaid public servants think they deserve anything, they are wrong.

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Youre missing the point. No matter what state the economy is in,you ll always get spongers. There are however a significant number who are either working or want to work and have not felt any benefits of the so called recovery. I completly agree with you regarding your point but you cant put everyone in the same pot

The Irish electorate will re-elect FG just like the English re-elected the conservatives. Populism only goes so far. Don’t mind those opinion polls. FG will walk this.

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Not so sure
I reckon they ll take no more then 50 to 60 seats

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaa, baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

nonsense, they just implemented the polices of FF who just did what the troika told them

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Recovery me hole… if half the fuckers who are working abroad came home we’d be bolloxed… 2007 me hoop.

that was a success before alrightt

correct, it was a great success, it enabled this country to grow in the 1990’s and early 2000’s.

A great cause of the collapse in this country, as UlteriorMotive points out, was the politics of envy where everyone assumed that they were owed a living and a certain standard of salary. Unfortunately the political representatives bought into that (all of them).

To date, in this recovery, jobs are being created but salaries are remaining relatively manageable. The approach of government for now should be to maintain salary rates as they are and reduce taxation on the working people.

There are two types of people in this society - strivers and shirkers.

@The Ulterior Motive and @ProjectX are two shirkers, stealing our tax money, sponging from the rest of us, trying to deny people who strive to provide for their families their right to welfare. Politics of envy of the worst kind.

Two utterly horrible people.

We earn it and it is ours.

The unemployed and public servants (who contribute equally to society) want to take it and waste it, in the manner in which they did and destroyed our economy.

If unemployed people or public servants want to share in any recovery, you need to get a “real” job and contribute to society.

You need to stop sitting back and expecting a living from the taxes of the private sector workers.

Fuck me you’re one Ill informed idiot.

It’s our money, mate.

You’re a lazy, sponging shit.

To save money and increase efficiency, perhaps we can replace a large number of the existing pubic servants with some of those migrants in Calais. They could not be any worse, right?

The private sector workers can no longer prop up the public service to the extent we have been doing

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If you’re engaging in the politics of envy against the migrants in Calais you must have a hell of a shit life, mate.