It could be easily discussed if the proposed glamour friendly tie between the sides goes ahead at Tallaght.
12 pm today but donât take that as gospel
http://www.uefa.com/âŚid=1667671.html
The UEFA Europa League group stage draw is made at 13.00CET in Monaco, streamed live on UEFA.com, and the 48 contenders have been split into four 12-team seeding pots
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Pot 1
Tottenham Hotspur FC (ENG)
PSV Eindhoven (NED)
Club AtlĂŠtico de Madrid (ESP)
Sporting Clube de Portugal (POR)
SC Braga (POR)
FC Schalke 04 (GER)
FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)
Paris Saint-Germain FC (FRA)
FC København (DEN)
AZ Alkmaar (NED)
RSC Anderlecht (BEL)
FC Twente (NED)[/size]
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Pot 2
Fulham FC (ENG)
BeĹiktaĹ JK (TUR)
Hapoel Tel-Aviv FC (ISR)
FC Metalist Kharkiv (UKR)
R. Standard de Liège (BEL)
FC Rubin Kazan (RUS)
Club Brugge KV (BEL)
AEK Athens FC (GRE)
FC Steaua BucureĹti (ROU)
Udinese Calcio (ITA)
Athletic Club (ESP)
S.S. Lazio (ITA)[/size]
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Pot 3
FC Salzburg (AUT)
Maccabi Haifa FC (ISR)
FC ZĂźrich (SUI)
Odense BK (DEN)
FC Lokomotiv Moskva (RUS)
PAOK FC (GRE)
Birmingham City FC (ENG)
Stoke City FC (ENG)
Stade Rennais FC (FRA)
FK Austria Wien (AUT)
FC Rapid BucureĹti (ROU)
Hannover 96 (GER)[/size]
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Pot 4
FC Vorskla Poltava (UKR)
WisĹa KrakĂłw (POL)
FC Vaslui (ROU)
FC Sion (SUI)
SK Sturm Graz (AUT)
Maccabi Tel-Aviv FC (ISR)
Ĺ K Slovan Bratislava (SVK)
Legia Warszawa (POL)
NK Maribor (SVN)
AEK Larnaca FC (CYP)
MalmĂś FF (SWE)
Shamrock Rovers FC (IRL)[/size]
Spurs
Lazio
Maccabi Haifa (for Mickee)
Rovers
Just after hearing this result now. Amazing stuff. Congrats to NCC/TASE
Watched the extra time in SPK last night. As a Blue i have a deep seated hatred for the hoops, but fair fooking play.
Spoke to a former hoop this morning he was over the moon for them.
KOH
Great goal, great result, great night for irish soccerball.
Congrats TASE
Brilliant result! delighted for Rovers and fair play to TASE and co!
Make it happen Jonathan
Iâm off ignore am I?
Not a bad draw for Rovers. They might have a chance.
Spurs
Rubin Kazan
PAOK
Shamrock Rovers.
:unsure:
if they win a game it will be a huge achievement for them. they will be in their off season for half of it i assume?
a decent result would be to not get hammered, make a bit of money and manage to stay near the top of the league
Good article by Eamonn Sweeney
A victory for love and loyalty
By Eamonn Sweeney
Sunday August 28 2011
What have Celtic, Rangers, Roma, Sevilla, Spartak Moscow and Panathinaikos got in common? Theyâre not as good as [color="#306294"]Shamrock Rovers.
Or at least they werenât on Thursday night when, as the aforementioned [color="#306294"]giants[/url] exited the Europa League, the Hoops produced one of the gutsiest, most stirring performances youâre ever likely to see from an Irish team in any sport to win 2-1 away to Partizan [url=âhttp://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Belgradeâ][color="#306294"]Belgrade and qualify for the competitionâs group stages.
It was a night when you could feel history being made, paradigms shifting and moulds breaking. There was a genuinely epic feel about the performance. After a 1-1 draw in Tallaght, they were given little chance of progressing and when they fell behind in the 34th minute it looked as though [color="#306294"]the script was following predictable lines.
But though they frequently bent and buckled under the Belgrade onslaught, Hoops never broke and from the moment that Pat [color="#306294"]Sullivan[/url] equalised in the 58th minute with a volley which would have graced any league in the world, you could see the realisation that the unlikely had become possible flooding through them. There was something moving about the sight of a League of [url=âhttp://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Irelandâ][color="#306294"]Ireland[/url] team giving as good as they got in a big European stadium as the likes of their great Grobbelaarian goalkeeper [url=âhttp://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Ryan_Thompsonâ][color="#306294"]Ryan Thompson, centre-back colossus Craig Sives, future Irish international left-back Enda Stephens, tireless anchor man Stephen Rice and super sub Steven OâDonnell, who slotted home the winning penalty in the second period of extra-time, reached heights they may not even have suspected they were capable of themselves, miraculously seeming to grow stronger as the game moved into extra-time with the temperature up in the 30s.
Excuse me. Iâll be back in a minute. Thanks.
You know what? That humble pie is pretty tasty. Which is just as well considering that a couple of weeks ago I bemoaned the fact that European football was a dead end for the league given that our teams hadnât a hope of qualifying for the grooup stages. In my defence, Hoops manager [color="#306294"]Michael OâNeill probably felt the same way, as he admitted after the victory that heâd felt the game was a bridge too far for his team. As he pointed out, one player on the Partizan team was earning as much as the combined wage bill of his own side.
This time last year the Serbian champions were knocking Anderlecht out of the [color="#306294"]Champions League[/url]. Two years ago, they beat that yearâs eventual champions Shakhtar Donetsk in the group stages of the Europa League. Their team on Thursday contained five players who have played at full international level for [url=âhttp://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Serbia_national_football_teamâ][color="#306294"]Serbia[/url]. With their 32,000 capacity stadium they seemed to inhabit a different footballing world from [url=âhttp://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Shamrock_Roversâ][color="#306294"]Shamrock Rovers. Turns out they didnât.
Thursday was an epochal night not just for Shamrock Rovers but for the League of Ireland. Because while the Hoops are an excellent side, theyâre not some kind of super team standing head and shoulders above their local rivals. At the moment theyâre engaged in a thrilling four-way joust for the league title with [color="#306294"]Derry City[/url], [url=âhttp://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Sligo_Roversâ][color="#306294"]Sligo Rovers and St Patrickâs Athletic.
And Thursdayâs win did not come completely out of the blue. In 2008, a last-minute missed sitter stopped [color="#306294"]Drogheda United[/url] from knocking out Dynamo Kiev who subsequently reached the Europa League semi-finals. The following year only an 87th-minute goal prevented [url=âhttp://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Bohemian_FCâ][color="#306294"]Bohemians[/url] from advancing at the expense of a Casino Salzburg team who went on to top their Europa League group, scoring double wins over Lazio and [url=âhttp://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Villarreal_CFâ][color="#306294"]Villarreal in the process. Even this season Sligo Rovers will look back ruefully on the two disallowed goals in their Europa League away first leg against the very strong Ukrainian side Vorskla Poltava, who won 2-0 on aggregate.
But knocking on the door is one thing, breaking it down is another. And while the victory over Partizan was founded on hard work and courage, the difference between gallant defeat and famous victory was two moments of [color="#306294"]sublime quality. Gary McCabeâs superb dribble through the visiting defence in the home leg, and Sullivanâs rocket in Belgrade, were the kind of goals which would be shown round the world if they came from one of Europeâs elite leagues. And what they did was confirm something which every League of Ireland fan knows â that there is no shortage of quality in our league and that our faith in the game is repaid every season by transcendent moments of skill. Sullivanâs goal was great but it was far from unique. There are plenty of other players in the League who can do, and have done, something similar.
This is worth stressing because one of the great puzzles of Irish sport is the obsession so many people have with pouring scorn on the League of Ireland. You can forgive apathy; if you donât want to watch domestic soccer, fair enough, youâre missing out but itâs your choice. But itâs the antipathy which makes no sense, the constant urge to denigrate a league you donât even watch. The League of Ireland is a bit like Socialism. It mightnât have many supporters these days but for its enemies any number is too much. Perhaps itâs something to do with a guilty conscience.
Thatâs why you end up with nonsense notions like the idea, touted as the acme of progressive thinking, a couple of years back that the Leagueâs salvation lay in a union with the Irish League. In reality, the Irish League had nothing to offer the League of Ireland because it operates at a much, much lower level. They are ranked 20 places below us in Europe which means the Irish League bears the same relationship to the League of Ireland as our league does to the Portuguese League. This kind of guff comes about because thereâs an idea that the League of Ireland is terminally ill. But Thursdayâs triumph follows on the heels of an FAI Cup final which attracted 36,000 fans to the [color="#306294"]Aviva Stadium. So itâs time people stopped condescending to Irish football. Because while Shamrock Rovers will be flying the flag for the League of Ireland in the Europa League group stages, the Scottish
League wonât be represented at all. Chances are that Shamrock Rovers might well have beaten either [color="#306294"]Celtic[/url] or [url=âhttp://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Glasgow_Rangersâ][color="#306294"]Rangers[/url]. And that Derry, Sligo and St Patâs would have done better at home to Spurs than the [url=âhttp://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Hearts_FCâ][color="#306294"]Hearts side which lost 5-0.
Yet the Scottish League is treated with seriousness in the Irish media, as though there are matters of great footballing importance decided there. In reality, it has far more in [color="#306294"]common[/url] with the League of Ireland than it has with the [url=âhttp://searchtopics.independent.ie/topic/Barclays_Premier_Leagueâ][color="#306294"]Premier League. The crowds who flock to watch Old Firm games in the nationâs pubs would scoff at the idea that they might see better football from Shamrock Rovers and Derry City. But theyâd be wrong to do so.
The recession has affected the League of Ireland, but not profoundly because it almost seemed to stand at one remove from the Celtic Tiger era. There was no sport less attuned to the zeitgeist of those money-worshipping days than the League of Ireland, with its lack of corporate boxes, its unashamedly working-class roots, its stubborn refusal to agree that what Irish football really needed was a Premier League franchise which would wipe out Shamrock Rovers and all the other clubs like them, clubs whose traditions are no less valued by their fans than those of the countryâs GAA or rugby teams. But the League of Ireland abides. And now Shamrock Rovers have taken it on to the big stage.
It is a victory for Michael OâNeill and everyone else at the great club. But it is also a victory for anyone whoâs soldiered through the years at Terryland Park, St Melâs, Dalymount, The Showgrounds, Turnerâs Cross and all the other defiant redoubts of the little league that can.
We are no mean people.
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- Eamonn Sweeney
great article
i would have thought the sentence great article by eamon sweeney
was an oxymoron but there it is a living breathing, great article by eamon sweeney (the ar5ehole)