In fairness we all know Randy Andy is not that kind of sexual predator and he’s from a very good family.
Do you reckon he didnt raise the head intentionally?
This might take a bit of a swagger out of the Carkies.
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Andrew was on the news this morning saying the photo was taken a long time ago and you don’t know for sure whether it’s really his arm around that young lady’s waist.
archbishop of banterbury
I’d change the second letter
Andrew is some mug- he’s already paid twice and now hes “seeking to make amends”.
Amends for what though? I thought he didn’t do anything?
I suppose he means to amend the notions of his subjects
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Modern day god save the queen.
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Made The Times yesterday.
The King seems to have an unfortunate habit of surrounding himself with paedos. Jimmy Saville, Peter Ball and this ghoul.
His brother…
Indeed
The bath that could get Prince Andrew out of hot water
Ian Maxwell says innocuous piece of porcelain could help his sister Ghislaine – and the Duke of York
ByRobert Mendick, CHIEF REPORTER and Victoria Ward, ROYAL EDITOR27 January 2023 • 9:35pm
Never has a bathtub been the subject of such scrutiny.
For years, the Duke of York has been dogged by allegations that he had sex with a then 17-year-old girl at the London home of Ghislaine Maxwell, his close friend who is now in jail – allegations that ultimately destroyed his reputation.
He is no longer a working royal, having been ostracised from the family and stripped of cherished titles and patronages.
At the centre of his accuser’s claims was a bathroom. It was in this small room in Maxwell’s mews house in Belgravia, central London – and specifically in the bathtub – that Virginia Giuffre alleged she was forced to seduce the Duke on the orders of Maxwell and her then boyfriend, the financier Jeffrey Epstein, in March 2001.
But the Maxwell family say the bathtub was too small for the Duke and his accuser to have engaged in any form of sexual activity.
In an attempt to bolster their argument, they stunted up a photograph of two people – approximately the size of Prince Andrew and Ms Giuffre – in the bath. It is published for the first time by The Telegraph.
The family have even supplied the bath’s dimensions, revealing that the base of the tub measures 1,359mm by 380mm.
The Maxwell family say the bathtub was too small for the Duke and his accuser to have engaged in any form of sexual activity
Ms Giuffre described the alleged bathroom encounter in excruciating detail in her manuscript, The Billionaire’s Playboy Club, which she has claimed is “99 per cent true”.
Having been trafficked from the US to London by Epstein, she claimed Maxwell took her shopping, buying her a £5,000 Burberry bag as well as a pink singlet and a pair of embroidered jeans.
She appears to be wearing the outfit in a now infamous photograph, taken later that night, in which she poses alongside Prince Andrew, whose arm is wrapped around her waist.
Ms Giuffre claims she was taken to Tramp nightclub, where the Duke sweated “profusely”, before they returned to Maxwell’s home. After some polite chit-chat in the hall, she said Maxwell and Epstein made themselves absent, leaving her to her “own sort of royal duties” with the Duke.
“Next to the study was the bathroom where I led him to next,” she wrote in her memoir, released online among a batch of court records. “It was a beige marble tiled floor with porcelain Victorian-style bathtub in the middle of the room and nowhere near the size of Jeffrey’s residences.
“I turned on the taps for the tub and the heat from the water began to steam up the small room. Trying to do the best of my youthfulness to try and act seductive, I gradually began to strip off my clothing, piece by piece.
“He loved every second of it as I went over to where he was waiting and watching, then began to undress him at a much quicker pace. We kissed and touched each other before submerging into the hot water, where we both continued to re-enact foreplay.
“He was adoring my young body, particularly my feet, caressing my toes and licking my arches. That was definitely a first for me, and I couldn’t help but laugh – I hoped he didn’t expect the same treatment back.”
They then dried off and moved on to the bedroom, where she claims they had sex. In a BBC Panorama interview in Dec 2019, she said: “It didn’t last very long, the whole entire procedure. It was disgusting.
“He wasn’t mean or anything, but he got up and he said thanks and walked out. I sat there in bed, just horrified and ashamed, and felt dirty. I had to get up and have a shower.”
Maxwell has described her account as “ludicrous” and “absurd”, insisting the photograph of Ms Giuffre and the Duke taken that night was a fake.
Her elder brother Ian Maxwell released the photograph of the two, fully clothed adults posing in the tub in the belief that it might help either the Duke or his sister, who is due to appeal against her sex trafficking conviction.
He said: “Ghislaine’s appeal is being proceeded with, and it is quite obvious the original trial was littered with problems and didn’t follow due processes.
“There are serious grounds for the appeal, and Ghislaine is working away and it is hopeful she will finally get an impartial hearing. We think the appeal will be months rather than weeks away. I have managed video calls with her, and she remains remarkably feisty.”
He is convinced bathtub photograph casts serious doubt on Ms Giuffre’s credibility and might therefore help the Duke as he seeks to restore his reputation.
“If anything Andrew is a bit bigger, a bit broader than the man in the bath in the photo,” he added. “You can see how small the bathroom is and how small the bath is. The idea that two people can get in there and she bats her eyes and takes her clothes off and has sex in the bath is impossible.
“The only way you can start to change public perception around that is to provide incontrovertible visual evidence. People can now look at this photo in the bath and judge for themselves. I am putting it out, and if that helps Prince Andrew then so be it. If Prince Andrew wants to use it, we will make it available to him.”
Prince Andrew’s office declined to comment.
