Republic of Ireland WNT - We're all part of Vera and Tony O'Donoghues Army

What a gobshite

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Heā€™s spot on

are the liverpool fans that sang it, the others he is talking about?

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Heā€™s not mate. Heā€™s as wrong as you. These things happen and will happen. Youve got to recognise call it and move on. Demanding people get reeducated or shit like that is stupid. You got your free, now play on. Instead youre demanding cards and var replays.
The mcareavey one is very different. As was that fucking dope sf lad who pht the bread on his head. Utter nastiness trying to goad the other side.
I wouldnt class warrenpoint as terrorism btw. That was a superb precision military attack. Nobody harmed except soldiers. What was terrorism was the brits randomly killing a lad immediately after because he was thhe firdt person they sawā€¦

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No, Amber Barrett quickly proved her words about Creeslough were weasel ones.

She and the rest then turned around and glorified the blowing up of children.

:rollseyes:

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Thatā€™s what she did. Youā€™re ascribing ignorance to her and the rest of the team when they knew full well what they were doing.

Celtic supporters demanded and got the resignation of Donald Findlay from Rangers when he chanted about being ā€œup to our necks in Fenian bloodā€.

Complete hypocrisy form them now,

Christ. Read what youā€™ve just written. Anybody in the world who listened to her speak will know youā€™re wrong.

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What I wrote is fact.

Her words turned out to be weasel ones.

What sort of person expresses grief for children blown up in a tragic explosion and then turns around and celebrates the blowing up of other children in terrorist bombs?

Someone for whom one tragedy is real and very recent but who has had very little real experience of the troubles in Northern ireland. Whose role model was more likely Taylor swift than Bernadette devlin. Someone for whom ooh ah up the ra is more a song of support for an ideal in general than a specific celebration of terrorist actions.
And she has every right to exist alongside all knowing types like yourself.

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By that rationale singing in glorification of the LVF is ā€œsupport for an idealā€.

Nobody believes that.

The ā€œjustificationsā€ that have been bandied around have been reminiscent of the MAGA Trumpists and their cheerleaders here claiming that attending white supremacist marches wasnā€™t a demonstration of support for white supremacism.

Intelligence insulting crap.

The Up the Ra chant should go into the same category as the n word.

Vera Pauw rightly said that the problem was the chant that was sung and itā€™s meaning.

The meaning was clear - glorification of those who blew up civilians and murdered Gardai and Irish Catholics as well as Protestants and English civilians.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Hard to disagree with anything Tom English has to say there.

Ooh Aah Up the Ra, I said Ooh Aah Up the Ra!

Why are you bothering? Heā€™s absolutely demented and desperate for attention. Itā€™s pathetic.

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I believe it. I believe people can sing songs for a wide variety of reasons varying from hardcore support to ā€˜weā€™re having a great time here and its a good tuneā€™.
You just cant believe anyone can rightly believe different to you. Now thatā€™s insulting intelligence.

Also, Trump and white supremacists really have no place in this argument. Itā€™s bizarre that you compare them.

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Some days you just try and change his ever hardening beliefs ever so slightly. Anyway, Iā€™ve a heap of work on today so Iā€™m out of here now. Gā€™luck.

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Thatā€™s the same logic that says white people can say the n word for a wide variety of reasons.

What you believe is irrelevant. Itā€™s the reality of what it means that matters.

When Irish people chant Up The Ra, it means one thing - glorification of murderers.

If the Northern Ireland team sang ā€œUp the UVFā€, or ā€œUDA all the way, fuck the Pope and the IRAā€ thereā€™d be uproar in the south and among Northern Catholics.

Itā€™s the exact same scenario inversed.

Has anyone blamed the split season yet?

@Cheasty has the Pretend IRA crew tied up in knots here.