Retiring GAA Stars tribute thread - May cause brain/neck damage

Joyce was a sensational footballer but I’ve never heard him utter anything insightful or interesting in his role as a pundit so far.

Bland and middle of the road. Perfect RTE material. He’ll be on RTE for the next 30 years picking up handy coin.

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This is your paraphrasing of what he said and given your distortion of events and questionable basis for anaolgies then you.

You seeming to think that platitudes to a retiring player is some sort of modicum of his legacy.

Those who have been around for Gooch’s career will know he was a very talented player lacking in the bottle department.

He played in 9 All Ireland finals. He lost 2 to Tyrone, 1 to Armagh and 2 to Dublin. The wins came against proverbial bottlers Mayo and Cork where the game was generally over in 20 minutes.

Substance over style, always.

The party line is Gooch was a great footballer, beware saying anything contrary to that as Martin McHugh found out.

Greatness recognizes greatness.

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Any joy yet?

Nah? Didn’t think so

we’ll never see the likes of him again

I’ve quoted actual scoring statistics and compared various players’ records in similar games againsy similar opposition.

And you’ve ignored that Cooper consistently went missing in big games and consistently had his influence curbed against Ulster sides.

How many more posts before we get the " based on my expertise" line?

He scored more from play in an All-Ireland finsl than McConville did against Tyrone or Canavan/Mulligan did against Armgh at the same stage - the biggest stage that there is in the game.

McConville was a wing forward.

You can keep quoting flimsy stats all you want, they don’t change Cooper constantly going missing in big games when his sides needed him the most.

McConville popped up from wing forward to bury a goal when his side were tottering, 4 points down with 15 minutes to go. That’s something Cooper never really did in his career, the big scores in the big games when they are really, really needed.

Gooch only behind Corkery for me.

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He was that good I’d let him ride my wife, my mother and one of my sisters

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McConville missed a penalty to put his team in that position where they were four pints down.

Stats aren’t flimsy they’re on record and don’t change.

I’ll check tomorrow but I’ve a feeling Cooper has scored more from play against Ulster teams in All-Ireland finals than any other player.

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So Cian O’Sullivans in the 2nd half must’ve been too, to keep him quiet?

Again, bizarre basis.

How many other players have played All Ireland finals against Ulster sides on three occasions?

McConville missing a penalty and coming out to score a goal that turned the game on its head in the second half - that’s adveristy.

Yet another chasing for @Nembo_Kid. :joy:
Can’t just make his dumb point and get out of dodge. (Good man to dodge normally)

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Flip flop flip flop from you as ever.

Break it down by scores from play per game in All Ireland Finals against Ulster teams and he’s ahead of Canavan and McConville, the latter a player who scored more against Ulster teams in the Ulster Championship EVER.

And it’s a flimsy basis and it’s all you have and you don’t like that being pointed out.

@Nembo_Kid 's clearly on the right side of this argument and is routing all comers.

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