[QUOTE=“Manuel Zelaya, post: 1058830, member: 377”]The point at hand is that you took issue with Sean Armstrong’s retirement even been mentioned in this thread. Some jumped up soccer type who can’t decide whether he’s from the Armagh or Tyrone part of the United Kingdom or Italy sneering at one of the most technically gifted footballers that one of the traditional powers of the game has produced this century and trying to dictate who should and should not be mentioned in this thread on their retirement. Nobody disputes the fact that it never really happened for Sean at senior level through a combination of injury and Galway not having the personnel around him to mould a champion team.
In describing the Railway Cup as a mickey mouse competition you’ve inadvertently shown yourself up as someone who knows little or nothing about the traditions or workings of the GAA. The Railway Cup and the likes of the Fitzgibbon and Sigerson Cup’s remain huge competitions in the GAA calendar.
There’s a lot more to Gaelic Football and Hurling than the semi final and final of the All Ireland senior football championship. For close followers of the games performances the likes of which both Declan O’Sullivan for Colaiste na Sceilge, and Michael Meehan for St Jarlath’s delivered in the 2002 Hogan Cup semi final or Sean Armstrong’s performance in the 2005 All Ireland U21 final last in the memory for a lifetime, regardless of whether or not anything else unfolded in their career. Those are stages where the technical skills of players really can be seen. Contrast that to the lack of skill you see from Donegal, Armagh or any Ulster side come senior championship time.[/QUOTE]
Huge competitions attract bigger crowds than 600 people, particularly when they aren’t even televised.
The fact is that at the serious business end of Gaelic Football, Sean Armstrong had a negligible impact. You can waffle on, disputing about anything else you want but I have no interest in that. Try and remain on track in future.
[QUOTE=“Il Bomber Destro, post: 1058831, member: 2533”]Huge competitions attract bigger crowds than 600 people, particularly when they aren’t even televised.
The fact is that at the serious business end of Gaelic Football, Sean Armstrong had a negligible impact. You can waffle on, disputing about anything else you want but I have no interest in that. Try and remain on track in future.[/QUOTE]
This is a thread to log retiring GAA players. You’re the one that went off track from the outset in your assertion that Sean Armstrong’s retirement didn’t warrant a mention here.
And as I’ve pointed out he was a star of U21, Railway Cup and All Ireland Club finals and a decent intercounty player for Galway for the best part of a decade.
Essentially you’re saying that its only the retirements of superstars of the game, serial All Ireland medal winners like JJ Delaney, Eoin Kelly and Declan O’Sullivan that’s to be commented on here as opposed to the retirement of a journeyman like Aaron Kernan or an underage sensation like Sean Armstrong.
[QUOTE=“Manuel Zelaya, post: 1058844, member: 377”]And as I’ve pointed out he was a star of U21, Railway Cup and All Ireland Club finals and a decent intercounty player for Galway for the best part of a decade.
Essentially you’re saying that its only the retirements of superstars of the game, serial All Ireland medal winners like JJ Delaney, Eoin Kelly and Declan O’Sullivan that’s to be commented on here as opposed to the retirement of a journeyman like Aaron Kernan or an underage sensation like Sean Armstrong.[/QUOTE]
Aaron Kernan was not a journeyman though, he had a big impact at senior inter county football and I’m sure would be regarded by his peers as one of the best wing backs of the past decade. Sean Armstrong didn’t and wouldn’t.
You were saying only a few minutes ago that it was only what you did in All Ireland seniors semi finals and finals that counted? Kernan played one game at that level in his entire career, in his very first in season 2005, when he came into a formidable Armagh team that still had practically all the personnel that won the All Ireland in 2002 still on board. As usual you’re completely exaggerating the status in the game of Ulster players. Armagh were rubbish for most of Kernan’s career despite having personnel from an All Ireland U21 winning team of 2004 and a minor All Ireland winning team of 2009 at their disposal and Kernan’s impact at inter-county level was minimal enough. Armagh didn’t make it any further than Round 3 of the qualifiers in the years between 2008-14 and failed to reach a single Ulster Final. Kernan wasn’t even getting a starting place on an Armagh side this summer that were relegated to Division 3 of the League.
I didn’t say that and there’s no point conversing any further with you as I’ve already repeated 4 times what I said but it has failed to register in your dense head.
Here it is in black and white. In your book, everything else other than an All Ireland semi final and final is irrelevant in assessing the merits of a player.
Here it is in black and white. You stated quite categorically that it is only what’s done in All Ireland semi finals and finals that’s relevant in assessing the merits of a player. As usual you are now trying to retract your earlier statement as it now no longer suits your agenda in weighing up the merits of Aaron Kernan as a player. Your problem now is that Aaron Kernan only played in one such game in his career and ended up on the losing side to Tyrone in the 2005 All Ireland semi final.
No, pal. He said he was a bit part player in a team that didn’t challenge. Whereas Aaron Kernan was a vital cog in a team that didn’t challenge. There’s a distinct difference in that Armstrong didn’t particularly stand out at all. Please desist from obfuscating the debate with extraneous information.
I’d refer you back to my initial post. I posted that Sean Armstrong had retired. He took issue with news of that retirement been posted on this thread.
Maybe we should be using the scale of the Indo when reporting drug arrests to describe the status of GAA players.
Living legend Sean Armstrong has just retired.
Bomber has his jaws firmly locked on Manuel here. It’s gone like the game itself, where obdurate Nordies just strangle the life out of the opposition.
Whether either is good or not doesn’t matter, it’s all about winning.