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Should I delete it?
Ireland can get to 16 points. Scotland can get to 15. If Ireland lost by more than 7 Scotland could go ahead of us. At the moment itās in our hands. It isnāt difficult to understand.
Too late.
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Scotland will beat Japan.
Ireland will still get the easy semi final.
New Zealand could beat us by 50 points plus if we play them. The heat is an obvious factor. Peter Ć³ Mahoney was a Disgrace today.
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I think the six day turnaround from Scotland v an eight day turnaround from Russia was a factor
But that cannot explain the complete collapse - it was a 19-12 thrashing
Japanās approach to the game was so much braver than Irelandās, exciting and expansive as opposed to staid and conservative
Teams have come back from group defeats before
South Africa did in 2015 after they lost to Japan, France did after they lost to Tonga in 2011
But South Africa were beaten by one point after leading the whole way, and France didnāt care against Tonga
England coming back in 2007 after losing 36-0 to South Africa is the only real precedent of a team coming back from a thrashing
Ireland will probably still make it to the quarters but a humiliation like that is very difficult to come back from
I canāt see them making much headway against New Zealand, theyād be well beaten
Theyāre relying on the Scotch beating Japan to get a crack at the South Africans, and even then itās hard to see them win
Same old, same old
At least theyāll be completely written off, which has been proven once and for all is a prerequisite for an Irish rugby team to have a chance of winning an important game
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Scotland couldnāt go ahead of us in reality. Ireland would be ahead on score difference. They just couldnāt be bothered trying to run the length of the field when they were tired
Also if Scotland went ahead of us Japan couldnāt go ahead of us so the bonus point is irrelevant
A man with no sense of humour
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The narrative has shifted to all important losing bonus points nowā¦
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12-3 up and collapsed to lose 12-19 against a group of lads who only took up rubby three months ago.
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Am I getting this wrong or is it not important at all?
If Japan win all their games Ireland finish second either way. If Scotland win the rest of their games Ireland finish first unless there is a massive points change but at lowest second if they hadnāt got the bonus point
The big problem is we canāt rest players now. Weād no energy in that humidity.
Need a BP win against Samoa
Need two bonus point wins to secure qualification. Itās still in our hands.
How are you expecting us to win a wc if we canāt deal with the heat
Two bonus point wins would have secured qualification anyway
Russia will pose a huge test.
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Id say you have it right, but its about the narrativeā¦
Japan play Samoa on October 5th
The Scotch have to play Russia on October 9th and itās an afternoon match
And the Scotch have to chase a bonus point
So the Scotch canāt really afford to just pick their dirt trackers
Japan play the Scotch on October 13th
I think Japan will pick them off
Ireland will not be able to rest players against Samoa on October 12th now whatever happens
That is a big negative ahead of a quarter-final
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