Ireland kicked it because Japan forced them to. Itâs amazing how many people always why did they kick it. Why does defender knock it long because he was forced to by being closed down.
Not nonsense. Proof they lack bottle
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@anon78624367 making a complete tool of himself here. Newly converted rugby man @Little_Lord_Fauntleroy really should have known better than rely on a soccer type when it comes to rugby facts.
@Sidney has cleared things up to some extent but has omitted Canda, who were quarter finalists in 1991 when they gave defending champions New Zealand a serious scare in the quarter final in Lille.
It was Western Samoa as well who were quarter finalists in 1991 and 1995 as opposed to the whole of Samoa who know compete.
Japan should make that 13 this time.
It was pathetic.
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Any sport where you can kick the ball out of play and benefit from losing is pathetic
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So 12. In the entire history of the competition. 
Itâs similar to a team losing on the night but winning on away goals in soccer.
Sorry @ChairmanDan, I completely forgot Canada
That was a decent Canadian team
Gave a good account of themselves in the rain in that quarter-final in Lille
It was played straight after Ireland lost to Australia by a point at Lansdowne Road
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Thatâs not true. No one forces you to kick The ball away. Ireland dinked a kick through towards end of game and Earls was bearing down on Japanese winger who collected the ball with his back to him and sold him an ankle breaking dummy before running 30 metres up the touchline. If that was Ireland it would have been in row z
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It isnât. Thatâs a two legged tie in a knockout. this was a once off group game with points at stake. Itâs a league competition and you get points for losing
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A won off group game you fool
Ding dong
Ah here Johnny thatâs nonsense. In rugby the best teams tend to kick more. All blacks would kick the most. Japanâs defense was outstanding. Ireland couldnât break them down so Ireland were always going to have to start kicking. In international rugby now defenses are so good tries tend to come off turnovers or kicks.
They play each team once. Howâs that the same as a two legged tie in a knockout?
Dig up lad
One.
Because itâs a group you simpleton. If Ireland lost by more than 7 qualification was taken out of their hands. By kicking it dead itâs still In their hands. Itâs amazingly simple.
That isnât true though, had Ireland lost by 8 points today qualification would have been very much still in their hands
No it wouldnât.
I know itâs a group, hence my confusion at you comparing it to a two legged knockout tie.
You are basically confirming my argument. Ireland benefited from losing today, rather than going for the draw. Thatâs pathetic
Yes it would
Scotland can reach a maximum of 15 points in the group
While that would have been the case for Ireland too had they not got a bonus point, Ireland already have a big points difference advantage against Scotland, so yes, it would very much have been in their own hands
No it wouldnât. All three teams can finish on 15 points. It would then go to scoring difference. So it would be taken out of Irelandâs hands. They canât influence any of japans or Scotlandâs scores now from now. With the losing bonus point Ireland can now reach 16 points. Something scotland canât do. Itâs very simple.