Rugby World Cup 2019 - Ireland shit the pot all over again

Was Joe over Ireland at the last WC also?

Anyway back to my initial point. Ireland will probably never have another chance like 2011. We’d genuine world class players littered across the team. That will always be a big regret.

Yes, they lost at the QF stage to Argentina. AFAIR Argentina “tested every shoulder”.

That’s an abysmal record really… No doubt Farrell will do a great job at the 6ns and some friendlies next year and the cycle will begin again.

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A semi-decent point that was made somewhere or other the past few days was that Ireland’s “coach-cycle” is out of synch with the WC. The thing to do would probably appoint a coach about 2 years before the WC.

But honestly, I don’t know if that’s accurate criticism or not because a criticism that George Hook used to make was that the IRFU gave O’Sullivan and Kidney big extensions right before the WC. Here they went in without giving the coach an extension and that’s the new excuse.

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Pretty sure Schmidt and kidney were pointed mid cycle after ridiculous extensions of their predecessors pre World Cup.

I think four years is very fair. The irfus obsession with the six nations may end now and Farrell might be given a better chance to build from scratch. It’ll be interesting but I don’t really think he’ll be a good head coach.

Jonny Wilkinson beat them with his booth

The 6Ns cash cow funds the IRFU - No chance will they ease up on that… The whole structure is set up to have a tilt at the 6Ns.

Oh I’ve a small amount of Ireland rugby gossip.

This forum will already be aware that Conor Murray wasn’t really injured and in fact was suspended for testing positive for cocaine. Apparently division was caused in the squad by his return because some players thought he should never have been let back in. I don’t know which players exactly.

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You are correct but I’ve a feeling they’ll ease up some bit.

Sure everybody is doing it these days.

So why cant we

What’s your source for this?

Brilliant from the IRFU leaking this. Now Murray is actually representative of lots of Irish lads his age now. #TeamOfActuallyUs

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Picking an international team from three and a half club teams is one thing

Picking an international squad from three and a half club teams is another thing entirely

The IRFU faces a big choice

If it picks players on non-Irish teams it risks the Walesification of the Irish club teams

If it doesn’t allow players on non-Irish club teams to be picked for Ireland, they are confining their own options

The point was made elsewhere here that maybe the glorified player welfare exercise that is the Irish club scene means Irish players could actually be undercooked for World Cups

Maybe there is something to it

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New zealand only pick from within and England too I think? If I’m not mistaken wales only allow a small number of players to be picked. I think it’s three. If Ireland start allowing players to be picked outside of Ireland the provinces would struggle massively. it would end up costing the irfu a lot of money too probably. I think the current system works well bar a small few tweaks.

I mentioned the under cooked theory and we’d multiple meltdowns earlier today. England are going to play Australia, New Zealand and South Africa in 14 days and have barely gotten an injury after two games while winning both games relatively easily.

@Sidney you are allowed play for wales while playing abroad if you’ve 60 plus caps.

George North signed for Northampton in 2013

I’m pretty certain he didn’t have 60 caps by then

Liam Williams has 62 caps and plays for Saracens

He did not have 60 caps before the World Cup