Russia Vs Ukraine (Part 1)

He has no self respect left for himself, endlessly spamming and tagging to try and relive his glory days and distract from his capitulation and abandonment of long held positions. He’s ruining what was a good thread now.

Surprise, surprise that you seek acknowledgement with Sid’s islamophobe burner account.

It’s not a good look for you but I think everyone realises what a sinister individual you are.

2001 isn’t a key date in terms of escalation in tension between the US and Russia, 2008 is the key date. If you don’t understand this basic fact, you have no understanding of what led to the current conflict.

Michael McFaul was the architect of the “Russian Reset”, which in retrospect was a complete disaster (like everything else Hillary Clinton touched in terms of foreign policy) as it empowered Putin. The lesson of the Russian reset is you should isolate dictators, not elevate their status.

The history of escalation is quite clear. GW Bush blurted out in 2008 that Georgia and Ukraine would be joining NATO, Putin was enraged and invaded Georgia shortly afterwards. The west didn’t intervene. In 2014 the US financed and backed the Maidan “revolution”, Putin responded by invading Crimea. This series of escalations is quite clear and has led to where we are today. The only people who deny this are US neocons, which is a strange place for you to end up.

There is only one way out of this, de-escalation and Putin’s removal. The alternative is escalation with the risk of nuclear war.

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16000 Indian students in Ukraine

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Zelenskyy has destroyed @Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy

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If you say so, young disciple of O’Duffy.

Russia escalated the tension. Not the US. The US. along with the rest of the western world, has bent over backwards to placate Putin for the last 20 years. Appeasement.

Why the fuck should we care whether Putin was “enraged” about anything? Small countries have a right to self determination.

You call yourself an Irish Republican, don’t you? And yet your entire view of this conflict and the history of relations between Ukraine and Russia is plainly framed through eternal sympathy for the self styled “great power”, not the small countries.

The Maidan was an actual people’s revolution. It was not a “coup” as you have characterised it. Vladimir Putin’s bribing of Yanukovych was an attempt at a coup against the wishes of the Ukrainian people. Yanukovych slaughtered the protestors and was impeached 328-0 by the Ukrainian parliament. Putin’s invasion of Crimea, invasion of Donbas and attempted coup and invasion against almost half of the rest Ukraine in April/May 2014, that was war.

I’m sure the Kinahan gang get enraged at any challenge to them from the law, or journalism. Why should we frame our understanding of the issue of organised crime through sympathy with organised crime? Do you do that? Because Putin’s regime are no different to the Kinahans.

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You literally said that Putin wouldn’t dare invade a couple of weeks ago. Please stop making statements of certainty.

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Will Ireland only take in vaccinated refugees?

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Give over ffs.

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This fella went full Jack Nicholson in A Few Good Men on Channel 4 news last night.

Yes, I was shocked at Putin’s invasion, and it was a massive miscalculation on his behalf. The actions of a madman as even if he wins short term, there is no way he can occupy Ukraine long term. We are seeing that play out real time, his convoy hasn’t moved 10km in days.

They are all brainwashed or else Russian society is destroyed.

He fairly shut up that Western hypocrite.

That’s the mug of a big drinker.

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Further confirmation your transition to neocon is complete.

Would the US accept Mexico aligning with Russia or China and installing “defensive” weapons on the US border? Would the US accept a Chinese backed and financed “revolution” in Mexico that overthrew the elected government and installed a pro Chinese government?

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I’ve decided I will let in people fleeing from war regardless of vaccination status

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@Tierneevin1979

In what way was the west responsible for any of the following?

Putin’s bombing of his own people in Moscow as a pretext to get power in 1999?

His flattening of Grozny in 2000?

His hapless non-response to the Kursk disaster in 2000?

Putin’s poisoning of Viktor Yuschenko during the 2004 Ukrainian presidential campaign?

The rigging of the 2004 Ukrainian presidential election against Yuschenko?

The people’s uprising which forced a re-run of that election which Yuschenko won democratically?

Putin’s 2004 ultimatum to the oligarchs that if they wanted to continue to do business in Russia, Putin got 50% of the proceeds?

Putin’s jailing of Mikhail Khodorkovsky, an oligarch who refused to business with him?

The murder of journalist Anna Politkovskaya in 2006?

The murder of Alexander Litvinenko in November 2006?

Putin’s crazy speech at Munich in 2007?

Putin’s invasion and annexation of parts of Georgia in 2008?

The murder in prison of Bill Browder’s lawyer Sergey Magnitsky in 2009?

Putin’s draconian clampdown on the 2001/12 protests against him?

Putin’s switch to a full fascist agenda from 2012 where anything that remotely challenged his absolute rule was branded as a gay, western, Jewish plot?

Putin’s invasion of Ukraine in 2014?

The murder of Boris Nemtsov in the shadow of the Kremlin in 2015?

Putin’s barbaric war in Syria from 2015 on?

Putin’s active interference in the 2016 election on behalf of Trump?

Putin’s mass disinformation war against the west and mass funding of extremist, mostly far right politicians and “causes”?

And everything else?

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Sad to see that mouthpieces and cheerleaders for a murdering genoicdial war criminal Putin are tolerated around here.

Back here to spread your bile after a few weeks sulking when your hissy fit and throwing the toys out of the pram routine got you nowhere.

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