The Americans, Brits, french etc must be sharing intelligence that encourages the Ukrainians to fight hard. It will only come out in time
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Putin looks in here from time to time and was desperate to prove the lads on here wrong so he invaded.
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It will get expensive anyway. Plenty capacity to replace it in the World. The US will start pumping out the shale and the Saudis will be encouraged to start pumping it out again. Even marginally profitbale oil fields become extremely profitable at these prices. It will take a while to get the supply into circulation but it will happen quickly enough. The money to be made is savage.
The gas is a different problem altogether. Much harder to fix. The Germans are hooked
Presume after april the Germans use fuck all gas for the summer?
Surely the Americans have a few of those Navy Seals or whatever on the ground in Kiev, to protect/advise Zelensky. Ditto the British with some M15 secret service agents.
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He mugged me right off the prick
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If you are not well trained, organised and/or supplied, you would at least want your troops to be running on the fumes of a genuine hatred or patriot fervour. I’m just not feeling it from the Russkis
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Has Biden at some stage stated Nuclear war was an option? What is Lavrov on about?
They are all poorly trained young lads supposedly. Understandably I’d say they just want not to die.
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If you ever take a look at flight radar there is constantly either RAF or USAF planes in the area around Romania and Poland. Usually surveillance or refueling planes, but there is obviously other fighter planes which don’t show up on it.
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Biden apparently said that the Russians had no idea what was coming.
Fuck sake.
More sanctions….
Might be working. But who knows how putin will react
Neither did he
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It isn’t inconsistent, but I understand your confusion.
The US as you well know on numerous occasions in recent decades has overthrown governments, installed murderous dictators and despots, kept them in power as they murdered their populations. Was it justified? In some cases I would say a reluctant yes, especially during the Cold War, as the alternative was potentially worse, so lesser of two evils. But let’s not kid ourselves, from Branco in Brazil, Pinochet in Chile, Syngman Rhee in Korea, Saddam Hussein, and on and on, hundreds of thousands were tortured and murdered, and numerous wars fought that killed millions (1 million in Iraq alone). This simply cannot be denied.
Did you support the Iraq war Tim? We lost moral authority with other great powers based on that adventure. We lied to our own population, to the UN and the world to justify an insane unjustified war and plundered enough capital that could fund alternative energy sources or help feed the world’s population for a generation.
Obviously the US or Europe did not install Putin as Russian dictator, but they were willing to tolerate him as long as Russian Oil, natural gas and coal were flowing. Even after the long list of atrocities that Sid mentioned, as recently as last year the US bought over 200 million barrels of oil from Putin’s Russia. In Europe Germany alone imported over $50 billion from Russia in 2021. We made the oligarchs rich and paid for the Russian military buildup. So once again we are happy to trade with the most brutal dictators and tolerate them as long as it benefits us economically and hope we can keep them onside. Even today with the ongoing tragic situation in Ukraine, the White House said it would not halt Russian oil imports as it would lead to Americans paying more for gas.
We funded him for the past two decades, regardless of his atrocities, murdering people with radioactive poison in the UK, slaughtering innocents in Chechnya and Syria. He has invested heavily in his military, including at least 5,000 tactical nukes which gives him a significant advantage in the European theater. Did we not think this could become a problem? In the meantime we tried to surround him, adding country by country to NATO and promising those on his border they would be added. Ukraine may not be in NATO but takes part in NATO exercises, and Zelensky talks of acquiring nuclear weapons.
So we fed the beast and now the beast has turned on us. A number of US foreign policy experts warned of this day coming from 2008 onwards, as Putin got increasingly agitated. I’m afraid they were right Tim. It’s not that we weren’t tough enough on Putin, we created the monster that is Putin.
Meanwhile White House and European sources confirm to the NYT that China asked Russia to delay the planned Ukrainian invasion until after the Olympics, and China continue to refuse to condemn Putin or support sanctions. Another fine bunch of lads we financed.
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Lavrov is on about the use of tactical nukes, the Russian escalate to de-escalate plan.
China are the key to resolution according to some old guy on Newsnight
I’d say Putin stopping a bullet with his head is the most likely resolution …