What about the ethnic Russians in the East how would they see it? But fuck them right, they’re evil too, even though they’re Ukrainian by birth
You didn’t give a fiddlers fuck about ethnic Russians until they formed part of your argument.
Nobody ever asked them, apart from in 1991 when they overwhelmingly voted to be part of an independent Ukraine.
The Russians certainly never asked them.
Also what you class as “ethnic Russians” are in fact Ukrainian Russian speakers - over half of Ukraine are Russian speakers as their first language. That doesn’t make them Russian. It’s interesting to note you class the English speakers of Ireland as “ethnic English”.
Anyway. Ukraine and the west are on the side of good here, Russia are on the side of evil.
It really is as simple as goodies and baddies.
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you probably couldn’t have pointed at Ukraine on a map prior to February you moron
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Neither did Putin pre 2014 either….
Moron
further evidence provided. It’s like talking/typing with Bill and or Ted.
When you scuttle off again it will all be still here in black & white……
As Steve Davis once said…
Would you stop being such a student politics loser at some stage?
NATO have had wild disputes, in fact they are always in dispute. Let’s forget about Iraq, let’s roll forward to some Germany with nuclear energy and Russian gas.
NATO (like the EU), can barely agree.
As we live in Western democracies.
But we still have a few principles than generally we all regard that keeps us talking.
But we are still better, far better than Russia and China. That’s reality and that’s why people flock to live here or be part of it.
But yeah, “big Western conspiracy” at the same time they can barely agree on nuclear energy. Cop yourself on.
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Oh yeah, the good old virtuous western good guys… The same crowd that came in through the IMF which implemented the reforms that saw almost 2 million hectares of prime Ukrainian agri land sold to foreign investors… That’s the good guys there with only democracy in their hearts 
Did they plant all the Land Mines?
I don’t think so. Nothing ever is, pal.
You’re clearly incredibly naive or incredibly stupid.
No, no they’re ethnic Russians. A lot of Ethnic Ukrainians speak Russian
Closing in on 10k posts. Great job all.
Ukraine is a democracy fighting for its freedom against a genocidal fascist regime led an evil maniac threatening nuclear obliteration against them and the west. The west, led by the US, is helping Ukraine.
Therefore Ukraine and the west are very much the good guys.
Sometimes the decision as to who to support in a war is that simple. World War II was simple in that the Allies were the good guys and the Nazis the very, very bad guys.
This war is even more simple in the fact that the Allies this time don’t have Stalin, who was an evil monster, prominent in their ranks.
You, like all lifestyle contrarians, see things that are nuanced through black and white, while you attempt to cloud things that are very much black and white with false, fake, lying, mendacious, shameless, intelligence insulting fog.
Ukraine and the west = the goodies
Russia = the evil baddies
Grand, you’re ethnic English so.
A lot of things are that simple, yes.
This is as simple as the question of which is correct between the competing statements that “the earth is round” versus “the world is flat”.