Ryder Cup 08

Ewen Murrays take on the Ryder Cup

The last few weeks have allowed us to have more than interesting debates and with your inclusion in this column, I have enjoyed the way you have participated.

As I have said many times, everyone should be able to voice their opinions in this far too politically correct world.

Last week’s column was entitled Faldo 0 Azinger 1. Well that has changed, and we will discuss that later.

There are some of you who put forward your pairings for our side this week and to Andrew Norrby, Robert Keenan, Scott Beaumont, Derek Field, Niall Smith, Guy Marsh, Conor Liston and Phil Hopkins, you put a lot of thought into them and I’m sure you will see some of them together at Valhalla. Mark Davidson was nearly as thorough as Nick Faldo will be on Thursday night!!

Rob Davis had doubts about Nick as did one or two others, but Pete Coley, Kevin Young, Neal Stanborough and Joshua Simons had no doubt Nick was the man to lead our side.

David Byrne was one who wished Ian Poulter well, as indeed the rest of the side. Fraser Preston voiced his opinion that the spirit of our side will win the day.

Johnathan Emerson said I had a pop at Nick Faldo as did Mark Metheral, which I don’t think I did. No one gets really close to Nick because that’s the way he is and chooses to be. That’s not a criticism, just an observation spanning 35 years. I would not make Nick out to be something he is not, and when I have been in his company, I’ve enjoyed it.

Some of James Bromley’s words on Paul Casey and Darren Clarke were a touch inaccurate, some were not. Another interesting note came from Owen Craft. He said that Azinger will open up on Friday with J.B. Holmes and Kenny Perry, both of course hail from Kentucky. I would think J.B. is in the team with fourballs in mind so he may have to wait until Friday afternoon for his debut.

All in all good stuff, but it is now time to forget our opinions and get behind the European side as they try to make it four in a row.

No stone unturned
It’s Nick’s that count and one thing we can be assured of, our six-time major winner will have left no stone unturned in his preparation. I hope he succeeds, because it would a fitting tribute to his excellence in what’s been a golden career.

Past captains have expressed their concern at Nick’s lack of vice-captains, but Nick has always done his own thing and been successful doing it, so why should he change that? He and his assistant Jose Maria Olazabal have played in 18 Ryder Cups between them, so no shortage of experience there.

Faldo has admitted he trusts nobody to take advice from and he is keen to ensure that his is the one voice in the team room. That is not a swipe at Faldo either. Nick is just being himself and is doing what he has always done. Faldo 1 Azinger 1.

His invitation to Martin Kaymer to join the side in Louisville shows much thought and caring. We would all agree that is a really fine gesture to a youngster who lost his mother this year and missed out on automatic qualification by only a few Euro.

Faldo has recognised he is a Ryder Cup star of the future and Martin’s delight at accepting was etched over his wide smile. Faldo 2 Azinger 1.

The wildcard debate was the most popular since this column began a few years back and many, including myself, were surprised at the inclusion of England’s Ian Poulter.

That debate, and what the written media have said, has heaped pressure on Ian and as I said last week that is unfair on him.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing. If he had chosen the same schedule as Justin Rose, failed to make the top ten and then got picked, no one would have batted an eyelid, as at that time he was 23rd in the world rankings.

I suspect had he played in Holland and Scotland, Ian would have made it by right. It’s the captain’s choice as far as the wildcards go and he chooses them to compliment his side.

My wish is that Ian wins every point in the matches he plays. Many think he is flash, the truth is that he is confident in his own ability. I have not spoken to him, but like everyone who receives criticism, it hurts.

Faldo will have spoken to him personally over the last two weeks and he and Paul Casey have had that time to fine tune their games.

Our wildcards and our rookies have been very important down the years and in this year’s contest, that remains so.

Shot
When the ā€œshot of the yearā€ is picked, it will surely be Padraig Harrington’s second at the 17th in our Open. For me, it would be Oliver Wilson’s second to the par five 16th at Gleneagles during round two of the Johnnie Walker Championship.

Four outside the cut line and seven holes to play, Oliver eagled the 12th. A lay up at 16 short of the water would have made the four he required tough.

A driver off the fairway was struck perfectly and pitched in the middle of the green. Wilson would make the cut on the mark, then go on to record two rounds in the sixties.

Should he need to remember how good he is during this week, all he has to think of is that moment. Oliver is a top player and when his first win comes, the second will follow quickly.

Robert Karlsson’s win in Germany was brilliantly timed and that is a further boost to Nick’s side. Miguel Angel Jimenez also leaves Heathrow in great form and Soren Hansen’s top ten will help his confidence.

The last American to win was Parker McClachlan at the beginning of August and that was in the Reno Tahoe Open which was played against the Bridgestone Invitational. Before that it was Chez Reavie who won in Canada. Faldo 3 Azinger 1.

Azinger has decided to take his team to meet Muhammed Ali when they touch down in Louisville, Ali’s home town. A superb piece of thinking, and if the greatest doesn’t inspire them, then nothing will Faldo 3 Azinger 2.

Healthy
Ahead of this Ryder Cup, the European Tour has never been healthier and with the ā€œRace to Dubaiā€ beginning next year, it’s important to hang on to Samuel Ryder’s legacy.

Many years ago, we had half a dozen good players and then struggled to find a strong tail to the team. This year, we could have put in a second 12 and been confident they could get the job done. See if you agree.

Darren Clarke, Colin Montgomerie, Martin Kaymer, Ross Fisher, Paul McGinley, David Howell, Luke Donald, Thomas Levet, Carl Pettersson, Daniel Chopra, Nick Dougherty and Peter Hanson. There are a few more in that category, Finch, Dyson, Hansen etc, and half of that side have Ryder Cup experience.

On paper, we should bring the Ryder Cup home next Monday and I’m confident we will. For the first time however, Europe are hot favourites, so that is something we have to deal with. The Americans are underdogs for the first time and it’s how they deal with that that may be the key to the result.

Friday morning’s foursomes will be hugely important for both sides. If Europe can get off to a fast start, I don’t think it will be long before the Americans become demoralised.

Should the momentum go the other way, it would be just the lift Azinger is hoping for. It is therefore important that Faldo starts with strong pairings and I would expect to see the following line-up for the opening session.

Harrington and McDowell
Rose and Poulter
Karlsson and Stenson
Garcia and Westwood.

That would leave Jimenez, Casey, Wilson and Hansen to come in should Faldo want, in the afternoon fourballs.

The Americans will do the same and the more I think about it, our reader, Owen Craft, may well be right in saying Holmes and Perry will lead their side.

J.B. Holmes and Kenny Perry
Mickelson and Mahan
Kim and Furyk
Stricker and Cink

That leaves Weekley, Leonard, Campbell and Curtis until later.

So that’s that, and this wonderful event is all but upon us. Sky Sports will be on air virtually all of the daylight hours from Kentucky, so we can look forward to all of the drama, emotion and excitement this match will surely provide.

Enjoy it and thanks again for your responses over the last month or so. From my position, I can’t be biased, so allow me this. Go Europe, and give Faldo the jewel he deserves in his golfing crown.

Faldo is a cunt.

I think I’ll watch a bit of this as, having done a bit of reading on it, there’s plenty of suggestions that because it’s being held in redneck territory in Kentucky we’re likely to experience a raucous atmosphere like Brookline in 1999. I hope it gets heated and all golf etiquette goes out the window and we see some real needle, if that’s possible in a sport like golf where you can’t deck your opponent(s). Azinger’s chosen JB Holmes, a Kentucky native as one of his wildcards, to join the other local, Kenny Perry. Ewen Murray mentions the possibility of these two getting sent out in the first game on Friday morning, with the aim of them blazing a trail, building up momentum and getting the Kentucky crowd going early doors. I presume Faldo will respond by having Westwood/Garcia or Harrington/AN Other as Europe’s first pairing and then it’s off we go from here.

The Ryder Cup- a load of tripe

this tournament has really lost its prestige compared to 20 years ago- a lot of journeymen pros take part & I dont think the top players such as mickleson give a shit if they win or lose- for them individual prizes are the ones that really matter - as golf is really a waspish upper class sport it will never get the masses behind it - sky can hype it up all they want but will golf fans in europe lose any sleep if they win or lose

I would largely agree. None of the really great players are ever going to be remembered for what they do in a Ryder Cup. Why would Woods give a fuck about it when he’s won 13 or whatever majors. The competition is set up for journeyman players to be the heroes. Think back over the last 20 years and it’s players like Torrance, Darcy, O’Connor, Walton and McGinley who come to mind. Or the likes of Monty or Clarke who had the talent but not the bottle to ever win a major.

Monty made me laugh the way he’d choke in a major, but then come along with that smug face you want to punch, chest out flaunting those man-tits of his and hockey some journeyman American into submission in the Ryder Cup as if it proved he was a man for the big occasion. Golf, whatever they claim, is an individual sport. Does anybody really give a shit whether your continent wins a contrived team golf tournament? The only two things I remember the Ryder Cup at the K Club for are Woosnam’s attempt at rivalling Mike Ashley for buffoonery the time he downed a pint on the balcony, and Sharon Ni Bheolain’s ridiculously over precise pronunciation of her script at the closing ceremony. Will Harrington consider his year ruined if Europe lose their grip on the trophy? Think I know the answer to that one.

The only saving grace the tournament has is if it turns into a real grudge match lke in 91 or 99.

Also, why exactly is the position of captain of a Ryder Cup team considered so important? Seems to me like my granny could do it and do just as good a job as Nick Faldo is doing. Must be the most over-rated job in sport.

[quote=ā€œsid waddellā€]
Also, why exactly is the position of captain of a Ryder Cup team considered so important? Seems to me like my granny could do it and do just as good a job as Nick Faldo is doing. Must be the most over-rated job in sport.[/quote]

The captain gets appointed about 2 years in advance and basically watches golf for the 2 years leading up to the match, does a few media interviews every month to keep the event in the public mindset (otherwise it would literally be completely fotgotten about as the players go about competing in actual tournaments) but the captain’s real work starts about a month before the match when a points ranking system picks 10 players for his team then he decides which of his mates that didn’t make the top 10 he would like to come along for the junket. Over the 3 day event the captain picks names randomely out of a hat to see who will play with who and in what order, then he drives around the course on a buggy watching the players and making sure he will be present when each of them wins / loses so that he can be seen to be ā€œa great captainā€ and really getting on with his team. His final act is to accept the trophy on behalf of the players who won it and accept all the plaudits, or in the case of failure, deflect all the blame elsewhere like perhaps suggesting he should have had more wildcards so that he could have brought more players outside the top 100 instead of the best players on the continent.

In short, he does fuck all.

woods defintly doesnt give a shit about the ryder cup, i think the americans are better without him (except in the singles) because its obvious he isnt a team player. I cant stand Faldo and still dont see any logic selecting poulter instead of clarke. I say it will be a roudy affair with the Kentucky fans,as Bandage said, similiar to Brookline. The american fans would piss ya off tho. The Ryder Cup doesnt seem to have the same importance as many years ago, golf is more a individual sport where players have to watch out for themselves only so team events like this dont really have the same significance anymore.

I’d say the reason the Ryder Cup was taken so seriously in the 80’s and early 90’s was down to the novelty factor. Before 85 the Yanks hadn’t lost for something like 30 years and it was nearly always a cakewalk for them. Up to 1979 or something it was only Britain and Ireland who competed but after that a great crop of Europeans like Seve, Langer and Olazabal came in so it evened up a lot. I lost interest after about 1995 though.

There’s always been a sense too that the Europeans care far more about it than any of the Americans, not just Woods. European players have the odds stacked aginst them in terms of winning majors far more than than Americans so it’s their chance to put one over on them.

Re the captains again - they should be like a good referee and just fade into the background and let the players get on with it instead of hogging the limelight because they contribute nothing. There’s been some brutal ones over the years - I seem to remember Seve poncing around Valderrama like he owned the place. That can only annoy a player. If I had been on the European team I would have told him to fuck off.

Just watched Faldo’s press conference there. Came across as a bit of a dick. Apparently there is a picture of him with pairings written on a piece of paper and some reporter kept questioning him on it. He said that the information written on that piece of paper were only for practice pairings. Was quite abrupt to journalists throughout. Know that probably isn’t important but he wouldn’t really inspire you. On the point regarding captains I wouldn’t say the role means fuck all. Having the right pairings can be important. For example Langer and Torrance always stood out as good captains while whoever put Woods and Mickelson together didn’t do the best of jobs.

It’s all kicking off now. Photos are circulating of Faldo with a scrap of paper in his hand showing the initials of players in potential pairings for Friday’s foursomes. When questioned he initially laughed it off as being a sandwich list then became more and more uneasy as he was grilled on it. Some are saying he’s starting to feel the pressure.

If it was his pairings for Friday, it was obviously what he felt was his best team so if he now changes them to keep the US guessing then it could be a massive moment in this 12man individual team event.

Someone should stick up a link to that press conference it was shocking stuff from Faldo.

The European WAGs btw

Back row: Kate Rose, Laura Smith, Montserrat Bravo Ramrez, Jocelyn Hefner, Caroline Harrington, Laurae Westwood. Front row: Anne Haghfelt, ā€˜Lady Captain’ Valerie Bercher, Ebba Karlsson, Emma Stenson. The group are joined by European Ryder Cup assistant Jose Maria Olazabal

SSN just showed an interview with some female yank about the Ryder Cup and who she thought would win etc despite the bint saying she’s not a golf person and that she had never been to a ā€œgolf matchā€ before. The things these coonts do to fill in time.

I’m predicting the foursome pairings for tomorrow morning will be the following in this order:

-Westwood/Garcia
-Harrington/Karlsson
-Rose/Poulter
-Casey/Stenson

Not a great standard of bird. Which of the unmarried birds are with which players?

Is Sergio still single after splitting up with that dog Martina Hingis?

With the opening ceremony less than an hour away it’s time to predict what the Europeans will be wearing. I’m going for navy slacks, light blue polo shirts and a cream blazer.

A very conservative selection Jugs but then again Faldo won The British Open one year by making 18 pars in his final round so you might be onto something.

I’m going to be gamey and guess he’s delegated wardrobe decisions to Ollie and I’ll therefore go for a brasher:-

Cream slacks, pink polo shirt and a navy blazer.

The Governor of The Commonwealth of Kentucky just signed off his opening speech by shouting:

ā€˜Now, let’s go rumble!’

And all the Yanks went, ā€˜Yeehaw.’

Europeans in sober navy suits and ties with white shirts.

I’m going for a shock in this - America to win 16-12.

what ime is the opening tee time tomorrow…reckon the yanks +2 points could well be a great bet…

Edit: anyone else see that ingorant fucker ā€œpoultsā€ chewing gum during the ceremony…

[quote=ā€œThe Pukeā€]what ime is the opening tee time tomorrow…reckon the yanks +2 points could well be a great bet…

Edit: anyone else see that ingorant fucker ā€œpoultsā€ chewing gum during the ceremony…[/quote]

1pm our time.

Faldo and Azinger both choking back tears introducing their birds and kids!

Faldo introducing Soren Hansen as ā€˜Soren Stenson’!

This is funny shit.

Standing ovation for the troops there - I fooking kid you not.

ā€˜Thank you for protecting this great nation.’

When Faldo was introducing his team and their respective countries, he turned around to McDowell and went, ā€˜Are you from Northern or Southern Ireland?’

McDowell just shrugged and Faldo went, ā€˜It’s Graeme McDowell.’